Some questions about differentiability

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The discussion revolves around the differentiability of functions of two variables, specifically examining the conditions under which a function is differentiable based on the continuity of its partial derivatives. Participants explore whether the converse of a known corollary regarding differentiability can be established and seek references for proofs related to this corollary.

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  • One participant cites a corollary stating that if the partial derivatives \( f_{x} \) and \( f_{y} \) are continuous throughout an open region \( R \), then \( f \) is differentiable at every point of \( R \).
  • The same participant questions whether the converse is true, specifically if a function can be proven not to be differentiable by demonstrating that \( f_{x} \) or \( f_{y} \) are not continuous.
  • Another participant provides a counterexample involving the function \( f(x,y) = x^2 \sin(1/x) \) for \( x \neq 0 \) and \( f(0,y) = 0 \), arguing that despite \( f_{x} \) being discontinuous, the function is still differentiable at the origin.
  • A third participant suggests that the proof of differentiability is not difficult and mentions the use of linear approximation in the context of differentiability.
  • Participants express a desire for references to textbooks that provide proofs of the corollary in question.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the validity of the converse of the corollary regarding differentiability. There are competing views, particularly regarding the implications of the counterexample provided.

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The discussion highlights the complexity of differentiability and the conditions under which it can be established or refuted. There are unresolved aspects regarding the definitions and assumptions related to continuity and differentiability.

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We have a corollary that
"If the partial derivatives [itex]f_{x}[/itex] and [itex]f_{y}[/itex] of a function f(x,y) are continuous throughtout an open region R, then f is differentiable at every point of R."(Thomas F. 1994. Calculus. U.S.A. Wesley p824)

But I wonder can we prove a function is not differentiable by showing that [itex]f_{x}[/itex] or [itex]f_{y}[/itex] are not continuous?
i.e. is the converse of this statement true?

By the way, are there any books have a proof on this corollary?
Most of the Calculus book state the corollary of theorem only without prove.
 
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athrun200 said:
We have a corollary that

But I wonder can we prove a function is not differentiable by showing that [itex]f_{x}[/itex] or [itex]f_{y}[/itex] are not continuous?
i.e. is the converse of this statement true?

By the way, are there any books have a proof on this corollary?
Most of the Calculus book state the corollary of theorem only without prove.

The converse is not true. A counterexample is the function defined by f(x,y) = x^2 sin(1/x) for x=/=0 and f(0,y)=0 for all y. For this function, we have fx(x,y) = 2x sin(1/x) - cos(1/x) for x=/=0 and fx(0,y)=0, and fy identically zero. Clearly, fx is not continuous at the y-axis (x=0). But since (x^2 sin (1/x))/ sqrt(x^2 +y^2) tends to 0 as (x,y) tends to (0,0), the function f is differentiable at the origin (and likewise anywhere on the y-axis).

For the proof you wanted, look up any textbook in advanced calculus or real analysis.
 
Just to comment that the proof is not that hard; the linear approximation is fxΔx+fyΔy, i.e.. this is the equation of the plane that is tangent to the surface. Try showing that you can approximate the surface to any degree you want , i.e., in an ε-δ sense, with the tangent plane as described above.
 
Thx everyone!
 

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