Sound and Temperature: A Mutual Relationship?

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between sound and temperature, specifically whether sound can affect temperature and how this interaction might occur.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • Participants explore the effects of temperature on sound and question the reverse relationship of sound affecting temperature. Some express uncertainty about the concepts involved, while others attempt to clarify the physics behind sound propagation and temperature changes.

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The discussion includes various perspectives, with some participants providing insights into sound speed in different mediums and its relation to temperature. However, there is a noted frustration from the original poster regarding the focus on temperature's effect on sound rather than the other way around.

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Participants reference the need for specific conditions under which sound might influence temperature, including the medium through which sound travels. There is mention of relevant literature that could provide deeper insights into the topic.

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Homework Statement


I know what Temperture effect the sound, but does sound effect the temperture? if so in what kind of way?


Homework Equations


Not much equation about these yet...


The Attempt at a Solution


Googled it, but everyone saying temperture effect sound...
 
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Need some help with this guys...
 
Sound is vibration.

EDIT: Honestly I'm not entirely sure I know the answer, but I'm fairly sure. That hint is the key to my reasoning.
 
i know, however it might effect temperture, since vibration cause movement and therefore , our air get hotter right?
 
Have you noticed that on a cold night we can hear things much better?
Sound travels through materials.
If that material is dense the sound travels faster.
Sound in a iron rod will travel faster than sound in water.
Sound in water will travel faster than sound in air.
Now if we heat up the air, the air becomes less dense, so sound travels more slowly in hot air than in cold air.
 
Carid: actually, the speed of sound in a gas goes as the square root of the quantity gamma*R*T. Therefore, as the temperature increases, the speed of sound in air goes up.
 
Right, cjl, the speed of sound can also be written as:
[tex]c = \sqrt{\gamma\frac{p}{\rho}}[/tex]

So, for the original poster. As the temperature increases, the speed of the propagating sound wave will also increase. Can you think of any relations which involve wave speed and other wave properties?
 
cjl

Thank you for the correction.
If I'd thought for a moment I'd have realized this.
On a cold night we can hear things further away due to the refraction of the sound in the air, the air nearer the cold ground traveling slower.
 
In a sound wave energy is passed from layer to layer but not with perfect efficiency and as with all energy changes the waste energy is converted ultimately to heat.
 
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OMG!
I am asking for the effect of sound on temperture not temperture on sound!
YOU GUYS JUST ANSWERED NOTHING!
 
  • #11
as it appeared to be, i have to do this alone by myself...
 
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Newton V said:

Homework Statement


I know what Temperture effect the sound, but does sound effect the temperture? if so in what kind of way?


Homework Equations


Not much equation about these yet...


The Attempt at a Solution


Googled it, but everyone saying temperture effect sound...

Well if you really want to know you could go to the library and take out the book
Theoretical Acoustics by Morse and Ingard. Pages 228 - 230 discuss this in more detail than you want to know. The bottom line: The exact details depend on what the sound is traveling through. Here's a quote: "In fluids with a very large thermal conductivity the temperature is practically unchanged by the passage of the sound wave." The thermal conductivity of air is not especially large and so you can expect that there will be a small change in temperature caused by the sound wave. The exact expression for the change in temperature under adiabatic compression (no heat flow) for an ideal gas is given on page 231 of the text I mentioned.
 
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ok thanks, however what happen in vacuum...
 
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Sound cannot travel in a vacuum.A medium(solid liquid or gas) is needed to carry the vibrations.
 

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