Space shuttle Atlantis orbit question

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The discussion revolves around the nature of work done by gravitational forces on the space shuttle Atlantis while in orbit. The original poster presents a true or false statement regarding whether the shuttle follows a circular orbit and whether gravity does work on it during this time.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between gravitational force and work, questioning the conditions under which work is done. There is discussion about the implications of acceleration and direction of force in relation to the definition of work.

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Some participants express agreement with the original poster's reasoning, while others seek clarification on the interpretation of the statements made. The conversation reflects a mix of understanding and confusion regarding the definitions involved.

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There appears to be a focus on the definitions of work and acceleration, with participants examining the implications of these concepts in the context of the shuttle's orbit. The original statement includes multiple propositions that are being analyzed for their truth value.

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Homework Statement


True or False: The space shuttle Atlantis follows an essentially circular obrit for most of it's operational time on a mission. While in orbit, the gravity of the Earth does not do any work on the shuttle because the shuttle is not accelerating.


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W=fd


The Attempt at a Solution


I think this would be false. My answer is that the gravity on Earth does not do any work because the shuttle is moving in a different direction than the force, and it doesn't matter that the shuttle is not accelerating. To have work, the direction moved must be in the same direction as the force. Is this correct?
 
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Roughly correct. But then why do you think it's false? The proposition is that no work is done and I agree. Why don't you say it's true? (that no work is done).
 


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ahrog, you were correct (and not just roughly) to say "false", and for exactly the reason that you gave. Acceleration is irrelevant to work being done, and, in fact, the space shuttle IS accelerating.

Dick said:
Roughly correct. But then why do you think it's false? The proposition is that no work is done and I agree. Why don't you say it's true? (that no work is done).
"... because it is not accelerating." There was more than one proposition made.

Would you say that, "the arora borealis occurs near the north pole because it is created by santa claus," is a true statement? It is certainly true that the arora borealis occurs near the north pole, but I would still declare this to be a false statement.
 
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turin said:
ahrog, you were correct (and not just roughly) to say "false", and for exactly the reason that you gave. Acceleration is irrelevant to work being done, and, in fact, the space shuttle IS accelerating.


"... because it is not accelerating." There was more than one proposition made.

Would you say that, "the arora borealis occurs near the north pole because it is created by santa claus," is a true statement? It is certainly true that the arora borealis occurs near the north pole, but I would still declare this to be a false statement.

Right! I wasn't paying nearly enough attention to the 'because' part. Thanks for catching that.
 

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