Spacetime and Geometry: Vanishing commutators

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The discussion centers on the properties of commutators of vector fields as presented in "Spacetime and Geometry: An Introduction to General Relativity" by Sean M. Carroll. The user explores the assertion that if the commutator [X,Y](f) vanishes for one function f, it must vanish for all functions. Through a reductio ad absurdum approach, the user demonstrates that this assertion is false by providing a counterexample where the commutator yields different results for different functions. The conclusion is that commutators can indeed vanish for one function while being non-zero for another.

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  • Understanding of vector fields and their properties in differential geometry.
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  • Knowledge of the linearity of operators and functions on manifolds.
  • Basic proficiency in mathematical proof techniques, particularly reductio ad absurdum.
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Homework Statement


I am studying Spacetime and Geometry : An Introduction to General Relativity by Sean M Carroll and have a question about commutators of vector fields. A vector field on a manifold can be thought of as differential operator which transforms smooth functions to smooth functions on the manifold. For a vector field X and a function f(xi) we write

X(f) = g, where g is another function. We then define the commutator of two fields X and Y as

[X,Y](f) = X(Y(f)) - Y(X(f)

In the exercise I am working on, we are asked to find two vector fields whose commutator does not vanish. An important step is to show that if the commutator vanishes for one function f, it vanishes for all functions. This is implied by the question but not proven.

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Is my solution below correct?
Is there a more obvious solution? (I.e. Am I missing something?)

The Attempt at a Solution


I proved it this way using 'Reductio ad absurdum'.

Our starting point is f ≠ 0 and [X,Y](f) = 0. We have another function g ≠ 0 and [X,Y](g) ≠ 0.

We already know that commutators are linear (from the previous exercise), so

[X,Y](f + g) = [X,Y](f) + [X,Y](g)
or
[X,Y](f + g) = [X,Y](g)

Therefore f = 0, which breaks our starting assumption, with which there must be some error. The only non trivial possibility is that [X,Y](g) = 0. QED?
 
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It's not true that " if the commutator vanishes for one function f, it vanishes for all functions". A commutator produces another vector field, and a vector field can yield zero when applied to one function, and something nonzero when applied to another. For example, in one dimension, let ##f## be the function that is equal to 1 at every point. Then ##X(f) = 0## for any vector field ##X##.
 
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