Special Relativity - Dynamics -- Traveling in Space

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The discussion revolves around a problem in special relativity, specifically focusing on the energy required for a spacecraft to travel to Proxima Centauri within a specified time limit of 437 days. The problem involves concepts of time dilation and relativistic dynamics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are exploring the implications of traveling to Proxima Centauri within the time limit and questioning the feasibility of such a journey given the constraints of special relativity. There are discussions about the role of time dilation and how it affects the perceived travel time from different reference frames.

Discussion Status

The conversation is ongoing, with participants attempting to clarify the relationship between time experienced on the spacecraft and time measured on Earth. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need for a second equation to solve for the unknowns involved in the time dilation scenario.

Contextual Notes

Participants are considering the implications of ignoring the energy required to stop and the time needed for acceleration at the beginning and end of the journey. There is also a focus on the necessity of understanding the gamma factor in relation to the travel velocity.

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Homework Statement


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Assume that 437 days is a reasonable limit for how long a human can endure constant-velocity space travel. Proxima Centauri, the star closest to our Sun, is 4.24 light years away from Earth.

If you wanted to fly to Proxima Centauri within the 437-day limit in a rocket of mass 2.00×10^6 kg , how much energy would be required to accelerate the rocket to the necessary speed in the Earth reference frame? For this rough estimate, ignore the energy required to stop, and disregard the hundreds of days required at each end of the journey for acceleration.

Homework Equations


K = (1-y)mc^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried to attempt this solution, but it seems impossible as you would have to travel faster than the speed of light to get there in 437 days. Where am I going wrong?
 
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Barry Melby said:

Homework Statement


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Assume that 437 days is a reasonable limit for how long a human can endure constant-velocity space travel. Proxima Centauri, the star closest to our Sun, is 4.24 light years away from Earth.

If you wanted to fly to Proxima Centauri within the 437-day limit in a rocket of mass 2.00×10^6 kg , how much energy would be required to accelerate the rocket to the necessary speed in the Earth reference frame? For this rough estimate, ignore the energy required to stop, and disregard the hundreds of days required at each end of the journey for acceleration.

Homework Equations


K = (1-y)mc^2

The Attempt at a Solution



I've tried to attempt this solution, but it seems impossible as you would have to travel faster than the speed of light to get there in 437 days. Where am I going wrong?
Are you taking into account time dilation? he 437 days will be time elapsed aboard the ship, not as measured from Earth (that will be much larger).
 
nrqed said:
Are you taking into account time dilation? he 437 days will be time elapsed aboard the ship, not as measured from Earth (that will be much larger).

how would i go about time dilation in this case?
 
Barry Melby said:
how would i go about time dilation in this case?
Time on Earth = ##\gamma ## times time on the spaceship. This equation contains two unknowns: gamma(which depends on the speed) and the time delay on Earth. So you need a second equation containing these two unknowns and then you can solve.
 
nrqed said:
Time on Earth = ##\gamma ## times time on the spaceship. This equation contains two unknowns: gamma(which depends on the speed) and the time delay on Earth. So you need a second equation containing these two unknowns and then you can solve.
i can't find ##\gamma##
 
Barry Melby said:
i can't find ##\gamma##

Finding ##\gamma## is easy enough if you know the travel velocity ##v##. Remember the formula for ##\gamma##?
 
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