Speed after gliding with friction force present using work/E

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The problem involves a 50kg ice skater gliding on ice with a given initial speed and a force exerted by the wind. The objective is to determine the skater's speed after gliding a certain distance while considering the effects of work and energy, particularly in the presence of kinetic friction being zero.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of work done by the wind and its impact on the skater's final speed. There is a focus on the interpretation of forces acting on the skater and the angle used in calculations. Questions arise regarding the direction of the wind and its effect on speed.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided feedback on the calculations, suggesting that the final velocity should logically be greater than the initial velocity given the work done. There is an acknowledgment of a misunderstanding regarding the question, leading to a correction in the interpretation of the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the presence of kinetic friction as zero and discuss the implications of the wind's direction on the skater's motion. There is a mention of the initial and final speeds, with a discrepancy noted between the calculated and expected results.

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Homework Statement


The question is as follows: A 50kg ice skater is gliding along the ice, heading due north at 4.0m/s. The ice has a small coefficient of static friction, to prevent the skater from slipping sideways, but kinetic friction =0. Suddenly, a wind from the northeast exerts a force of 4N on the skater. Use work and energy to find the skater's speed after gliding 100m in this wind.

Homework Equations


W= F ⋅ d
W= ΔKE = 1/2 mvf2-1/2 mvi2

The Attempt at a Solution


W= F ⋅ d = (sin45)(4N)(100m) = 282.842712 J
In this step I assumed the angle to be 45 degrees because we are trying to find the y component of the force. (Since there is no movement sideways and speed is not affected by the sideway movement)
I used the above value of work in the next step. I rearranged the formula below to get final velocity.

W= ΔKE = 1/2 mvf2-1/2 mvi2
vf= √[(2W+mvi2)/m]

Plugging in the values from the question gave me 5.2 m/s. The correct answer was 2.2m/s.

Any help would be much appreciated!
 
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Have a look at your last equation. If you add W and the initial kinetic energy, the final velocity must be larger than the initial one.
 
miyayeah said:
heading due north

miyayeah said:
a wind from the northeast
So will the skater go faster or slower?
 
haruspex said:
So will the skater go faster or slower?
Oh I read the question wrong. Thank you, I got the right answer this time.
 

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