Speed of light relative to universe expansion?

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the speed of light and the expansion of the universe. It is established that the speed of light is a constant, denoted as 'c', and is independent of the motion of the observer or the source, as confirmed by various experiments. While some participants speculate about the potential effects of universal expansion on light's speed, the consensus is that local measurements of light remain unaffected by cosmic dynamics. The conversation also touches on the complexities of measuring light in different frames of reference and the implications of general relativity. Ultimately, the speed of light is considered a fundamental constant that does not change despite the universe's expansion.
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pervect said:
Do you have a reference that calls this the sagnac effect? I have some doubts that the term is being used properly - it seems to me that you are talking about simple doppler shift and calling it the "sagnac effect". AFAIK the sagnac effect only occurs in rotating systems. As I said, if you have a reference for this I'd like to see it.

pervect - I am citing these not for content, but for nomenclature

http://arxiv.org/ftp/physics/papers/0609/0609202.pdf

Http://www.geocities.com/mail0110261847/npa/npa2007y.pdf

I will recheck that last link - may not be correct
 
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pervect - The link seems to work - take a look at page 8 for how this guy views the Sagnac phase shift as actually a translational affect.

I don't have a reference for the rectangle with the source/receiver moving with uniform velocity v along one leg - but by analogy with the rotation of the entire frame about some center point of the mirror system, the same phase shift should occur for v = wr and v = dx/dt so long as v is measured relative to the at rest lab frame. If you need more on the one way Sagnac - you might google one way Sagnac effect in GPS
 
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