Spring Constant and Distance: Find the Stretch of Each Spring

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of springs, specifically focusing on the spring constant and how it relates to the number of coils in a spring. The original poster describes a scenario involving a spring that stretches under a weight and then is cut into two shorter springs, prompting questions about how the stretch changes with the new configuration.

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the spring constant and the number of coils, questioning the implications of cutting the spring in half. There is confusion regarding the application of the spring constant formula and how to calculate the new stretch for each spring.

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Participants are actively discussing the problem, with some providing guidance on how to approach the calculations step by step. There is a recognition of the need to clarify the relationship between the original and new spring constants, as well as how the weight affects the stretch of the springs.

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The original poster's understanding of the spring constant and its relationship to the number of coils is being questioned. There is also a lack of clarity regarding the weight being supported by the springs and how that influences the calculations.

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Recall that the spring constant is inversely proportional to the number of coils in the spring, or that shorter springs equate to stiffer springs. An object is attached to the lower end of a 100-coil spring that is hanging from the ceiling. The spring stretches by 0.170 m. The spring is then cut into two identical springs of 50 coils each. As the drawing shows, each spring is attached between the ceiling and the object. By how much does each spring stretch?

I know the equation F=-Kx applies...I know that it should be 2k and 1/2x from there confused?? * i tryed dividing 0.170 by 2 and times it by 2 ?? what do ??
 
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Your statement "I know that it should be 2k and 1/2x" makes no sense. WHAT should be 2k and 1/2x? And where did you get that "1/2x" from?

You are told that the spring constant is inversely proportional to the number of coils of the spring of the spring. You are also told that attaching an object of weight w (unknown) it stretches by 0.170 m. That means its initial spring constant is k= w/0.170. Since the number of coils is cut in half, and k is inversely proportional to that, the new k is 2w/0.170. The same weight will be stretched a distance w= (2w/0.170)x so that x= 0.170: half the previous stretch. Prehaps that's where you got that 1/2x but that's the result, not another "multiplier".
 
2k and 1/2x ...F= 2k 1/2x in comparison to the 100 coils so that would be for the 50 coils...I am still confused on what to do with the distance
 
Do it step by step. As Halls' showed, first find the k of the original spring (express it in term of the unknown weight w). Then find the new spring constant of the two shorter springs. Then figure out how much each smaller spring stretches when they support the original weight. (Note that both springs attach to the same weight, so how much of that weight must each spring support?)
 

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