MHB SQL Expressions for RADL Database

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The discussion focuses on formulating SQL expressions for a RADL database, addressing various queries related to personnel, customers, and warehouse items. Participants confirm the need for proper syntax, including the use of quotes around strings and the correct table names. There is clarification on how to check for existing orders for customers and the importance of using aggregate functions in SQL queries, particularly when determining volumes or totals. The conversation also touches on the interpretation of "volume" in the context of the queries, leading to a discussion about whether it refers to the number of items or the total price. Overall, the participants are collaboratively refining their SQL commands to ensure accuracy and functionality.
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Hey! :giggle:

Use the RADL database as a basis for formulating the following SQL commands.
1. Give an SQL expression that outputs all personnel information for the employee Ernst Pach.
2. Give an SQL expression that outputs all personnel information about the employees, who earn more than 4000 EUR and live in Regensburg.
3. Give an SQL expression that outputs all information about parts in the warehouse, of which at least five pieces are actually in the warehouse.
4. Give an SQL expression that outputs all customers for whom an order exists and they come from Regensburg. Do not use a Cartesian product or join in the expression.
5. Give an SQL expression that outputs the order items with the lowest volume or part number 100001.At 1 do we have the following expression ?

SELECT *
FROM Kunde
WHERE Name = Ernst Pach
At 2 do we have the following expression ?

SELECT *
FROM Kunde
WHERE Kto > 4000 AND Ort = Regensburg :unsure:
 
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Hey mathmari!

What is that RADL database? (Wondering)

Your expressions seem correct to me, although we will need quotes around the strings.
So it should be for instance:

SELECT *
FROM Kunde
WHERE Name = "Ernst Pach"

🤔
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
What is that RADL database? (Wondering)

Hmm I am not really familiar with SQL and I don't really know what RADL database is. Can we give the expressions into a kind of compiler and getthe desired result? :unsure:
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Your expressions seem correct to me, although we will need quotes around the strings.
So it should be for instance:

SELECT *
FROM Kunde
WHERE Name = "Ernst Pach"

🤔

Ah ok! 🤔
 
mathmari said:
Hmm I am not really familiar with SQL and I don't really know what RADL database is. Can we give the expressions into a kind of compiler and getthe desired result? :unsure:
I assumed that the RADL database is some kind of example set of tables that you're supposed to use for the problems.
What are the schema's of the example tables? Where does it say for instance that you have a column named "Kto"?

And yes, we can try out SQL on various locations.
For instance here:
http://sqlfiddle.com/
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
I assumed that the RADL database is some kind of example set of tables that you're supposed to use for the problems.
What are the schema's of the example tables? Where does it say for instance that you have a column named "Kto"?

Ahh ok, we have the following :
1636917946783.png


Then at "personal" we have :
1636918608354.png
Therefore at expression 1 do we have the following ?

Code:
SELECT *
FROM personal
WHERE name = "Ernst Pach"
Then at 2 do we have the following ?

Code:
SELECT *
FROM personal 
WHERE gehalt > "4000" AND ort = "Regensburg"

:unsure:
For the expression 3 I think we have touse the table for the warehouse (lager):
1636919164062.png


Then do we have the following ?

Code:
SELECT *
FROM lager 
WHERE betand > "5"

Is that correct? :unsure:
For 4 we use the table for the customer (kunde) :
1636919411060.png


How can we check if for a customer an order exists ? :unsure:
At 5 thee table is :
1636919564974.png


:unsure:
 
mathmari said:
Ahh ok, we have the following :

It looks as if you have access to a database program with the tables.
If so, then perhaps you can also try your SQL queries on it directly?
I think that one of the buttons at the top will likely gives you access to a window where you can type SQL queries. (Wondering)

mathmari said:
Then at 2 do we have the following ?
Code:
SELECT *
FROM personal
WHERE gehalt > "4000" AND ort = "Regensburg"

If it is a number, then we shouldn't use quotes.
So we should be able to write gehalt > 4000. 🤔

mathmari said:
For the expression 3 I think we have to use the table for the warehouse (lager):
Code:
SELECT *
FROM lager
WHERE betand > "5"
Shouldn't it be >= 5?
And there is a typo.
So it should be bestand >= 5. 🤔

mathmari said:
For 4 we use the table for the customer (kunde) :

How can we check if for a customer an order exists ?

We can do a query on multiple tables.
For instance:
Code:
SELECT *
FROM customers AS k, auftrag AS a
WHERE k.kundnr = a.kundnr;
🤔

mathmari said:
At 5 thee table is :

Looks as if we will need a query with a function in it. 🤔
 
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Klaas van Aarsen said:
It looks as if you have access to a database program with the tables.
If so, then perhaps you can also try your SQL queries on it directly?
I think that one of the buttons at the top will likely gives you access to a window where you can type SQL queries. (Wondering)

Where can I type the SQL queries? Do you have an idea?

1636923230164.png


:unsure:
 
mathmari said:
Where can I type the SQL queries? Do you have an idea?
I see "SQL" at the top right in the caption bar, which looks like something we might be able to click on. 🤔

Alternatively Sichten, Sequenzen, and Funktionen are candidates. 🤔

I see you have PostgreSQL. I found this:
1636927539623.png

That is, it may be that you have a dedicated SQL Shell (psql) in your windows menu where PostgreSQL is. 🤔

I also see that you have buttons for Durchsuchen and others.
1636927776306.png

Durchsuchen probably pops up a search dialog, which may support SQL.
It's also possible that we need to click an "Advanced" button or some such to get to SQL in a text window. 🤔
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
I see "SQL" at the top right in the caption bar, which looks like something we might be able to click on. 🤔

At SQL I get :
1636928828596.png


So there I will the codes that we wrote above?

For example for 1 I will write there :

SELECT *
FROM personal
WHERE name = "Ernst Pach"

right? :unsure:
 
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mathmari said:
At SQL I get :

So there I will the codes that we wrote above?
Yep. (Sun)
 
  • #11
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Yep. (Sun)

I get :
1636929313427.png


Have I done something wrong or does it mean that in the table that name is not included? :unsure:
 
  • #12
I think that the syntax is somehow wrong.

What do you get if you run just SELECT * FROM personal; ? 🤔

Perhaps we need WHERE name = 'Ernst Pach' with single quotes instead of double quotes. 🤔
 
  • #13
It appears that the problem is indeed the quotes, which must be single quotes.
I could get the same problem with http://sqlfiddle.com.
I selected PostgreSQL 9.6 and was able to execute:

1636930337960.png
 
  • #14
At 4 do you mean:

SELECT *
FROM kunde k, auftrag a
WHERE k.kundnr = a.kundnr And k.ort='Regensburg';

Or how do we write that? :unsure:At 5 do we have the following?

SELECT *
FROM auftragsposten a
WHERE a.anzahl<=ALL (select a.anzahl from auftragsposten) OR a.teilenr=100001;Here I get :
1636965549708.png


Is that correct? :unsure:
 
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  • #15
mathmari said:
At 4 do you mean:

SELECT *
FROM kunde k, auftrag a
WHERE k.kundnr = a.kundnr And k.ort='Regensburg';

Or how do we write that?
Looks correct to me. (Nod)

mathmari said:
At 5 do we have the following?

SELECT *
FROM auftragsposten a
WHERE a.anzahl<=ALL (select a.anzahl from auftragsposten) OR a.teilenr=100001;
That doesn't seem to work, since I see rows that are not at the minimum Anzahl. (Shake)

Instead we should be able to do:

SELECT *
FROM auftragsposten
WHERE anzahl=(SELECT MIN(anzahl) FROM auftragsposten) OR teilenr=100001;
🤔
 
  • #16
Klaas van Aarsen said:
That doesn't seem to work, since I see rows that are not at the minimum Anzahl. (Shake)

Instead we should be able to do:

SELECT *
FROM auftragsposten
WHERE anzahl=(SELECT MIN(anzahl) FROM auftragsposten) OR teilenr=100001;
🤔

Ok! Then we get
1636968689465.png


Do we get that result because all items with teilenr = 100001 have number of items 1? Or why are all "anzahl" equal to 1, sincewe ask either to have the minimum volume OR the specific number? :unsure:
 
  • #17
mathmari said:
Do we get that result because all items with teilenr = 100001 have number of items 1? Or why are all "anzahl" equal to 1, sincewe ask either to have the minimum volume OR the specific number?
What do we get if we do:

SELECT *
FROM auftragsposten
WHERE teilenr=100001;

?
Are there parts with teilenr 100001 that have a higher anzahl? (Wondering)
 
  • #18
Klaas van Aarsen said:
What do we get if we do:

SELECT *
FROM auftragsposten
WHERE teilenr=100001;

?
Are there parts with teilenr 100001 that have a higher anzahl? (Wondering)
1636977725592.png


Ok! So all parts with this number have anzahl 1, that's why! :geek:

(The volume that is asked means the number of items, or not? :unsure:)
 
  • #19
mathmari said:
(The volume that is asked means the number of items, or not? )
I presume 'volume' was translated from German. What was the question in German? 🤔
 
  • #20
Klaas van Aarsen said:
I presume 'volume' was translated from German. What was the question in German? 🤔

The original statement is :

Geben Sie einen SQL-Ausdruck an, der die Auftragsposten mit dem geringsten Volumen oder der Teilnummer 100001 ausgibt.

:unsure:
 
  • #21
mathmari said:
The original statement is :

Geben Sie einen SQL-Ausdruck an, der die Auftragsposten mit dem geringsten Volumen oder der Teilnummer 100001 ausgibt.
I'm not entirely sure what they mean by Volume. It could indeed be the anzahl. 🤔

More generally I think volume means the total amount in transactions for a particular part.
So it could mean that we need to sum the anzahl's of all orders for a specific part. 🤔
 
  • #22
Klaas van Aarsen said:
More generally I think volume means the total amount in transactions for a particular part.
So it could mean that we need to sum the anzahl's of all orders for a specific part. 🤔

I haven't really understood this part. Could you explain that furher to me? :unsure:
 
  • #23
Here are all the given tables :

arbeitsvorgang :
1636989704675.png
auftrag :
1636989725246.png
auftragsposten :
1636989755494.png
avo_belegung :
1636989777203.png
kunde :
1636989796231.png

lager :
1636989814950.png

lieferant :
1636989834813.png
personal :
1636989853409.png

teilereservierung :
1636989876902.png
teilestamm :
1636989897556.png
teilestruktur :
1636989918081.png

Do we maybe use any other table from them ? :unsure:
 
  • #24
mathmari said:
Do we maybe use any other table from them ? :unsure:
I think you had the correct table, but maybe we need to aggregate it differently.

What do you get for:

SELECT teilenr, SUM(anzahl)
FROM auftragsposten
GROUP BY teilenr;

? 🤔
 
  • #25
Klaas van Aarsen said:
I think you had the correct table, but maybe we need to aggregate it differently.

What do you get for:

SELECT teilenr, SUM(anzahl)
FROM auftragsposten
GROUP BY teilenr;

? 🤔
Could you explain to me what it does exactly? Why do we take the sum? GROUP BY means that that we consider more than 1 column? :unsure:
 
  • #26
mathmari said:
Could you explain to me what it does exactly? Why do we take the sum? GROUP BY means that that we consider more than 1 column?
It finds the sum of anzahl's for each teilenr, which should correspond to the volume for that teilenr.
GROUP BY means that we group the rows by teilenr and find the sum of anzahl for each group. 🤔
 
  • #27
Klaas van Aarsen said:
It finds the sum of anzahl's for each teilenr, which should correspond to the volume for that teilenr.
GROUP BY means that we group the rows by teilenr and find the sum of anzahl for each group. 🤔

I haven't really understood why wehave to consider the sum and not just the anzahl? Could you explain that further to me? :unsure:
 
  • #28
I checked it and it is probably meant the total price ofan order... So we do :

Code:
SELECT *  
FROM auftragsposten  
WHERE gesamtpreis=(SELECT MIN(gesamtpreis) FROM auftragsposten) OR teilenr=100001;

Is that correct? :unsure:
 
  • #29
mathmari said:
I haven't really understood why wehave to consider the sum and not just the anzahl? Could you explain that further to me?

When trading in stocks, volume is the "number of shares of a security traded during a given period of time".
I thought that it perhaps applied here to, and that perhaps the volume was the number of parts sold. :unsure:

mathmari said:
I checked it and it is probably meant the total price of an order... So we do :
Code:
SELECT *
FROM auftragsposten
WHERE gesamtpreis=(SELECT MIN(gesamtpreis) FROM auftragsposten) OR teilenr=100001;

Hmm, it asks for "Auftragsposten mit dem geringsten Volumen".
So I guess it's about the volume of individual parts. If the volume is the number of parts, it should be anzahl. If the volume is supposed to be the price of the parts, it should be gesamtpreis. :unsure:
 
  • #30
mathmari said:
Could you explain to me what it does exactly? Why do we take the sum? GROUP BY means that that we consider more than 1 column? :unsure:

GROUP BY will aggregate by a column, so it needs a function like sum, max, min, etc. that goes across the group.

Let's say we have data like this.

Name, score
Jameson, 1
mathmari, 2
Jameson, 5
Jameson, 4
mathmari, 8
Klaas, 1
Klaas 8

If we do SELECT name, sum(score) from table GROUP BY name we would get

Jameson, 10
mathmari, 10
Klaas, 9
 

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