Standard angles for vectors (Mechanics)

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Standard angles for vectors are measured counterclockwise from the positive x-axis, which can lead to confusion when interpreting angles in different quadrants. For example, an angle of 36 degrees in the third quadrant can be converted to a standard angle by adding 180 degrees, resulting in 216 degrees. Similarly, angles in the fourth quadrant require subtracting from 360 degrees to find their standard angle. The calculations for standard angles differ from typical angle representations, as they reflect their position relative to the unit circle. Understanding these conversions is essential for accurately calculating vector components.
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Just got done with my first week in phyiscs (mechanics) and I'm pretty confused on to find the standard angle, We are currently learning vectors, and for example we had a problem were we had to calculate R from A and B, A was like 30 degrees in the first qaudrant and B was 36 degrees in the 3rd qaudrant, and he wanted us to use the standard angles when we calcualted the compnents, and somehow he got 60 degrees as the standard angle for A and 216 for B. I understand that he added 180 to 36 to get 216 and subtracted 30 from 90 to get 60, but in another example, A was 35 degrees in the fourth quadrant, and B was 10 degrees in the third quadrant, in which he got 325 as the standard angle of A and 190 for B again I understand that he 10 to 180 to get 190 for B and subtracted 35 from 360 for A, but overall I am confused on when to subtract or add and from which number to add or subtract from. But like in "normal math" the calculations are different like 30 degrees int eh frist quadrant would just be 30 degrees and 35 degrees in the fourth quadrant would be 395 degrees, so whats going on.

Sorry i couldn't figure out how to upload an image here, so heres an imgur link with the two examples i described, they are exactly what my professor wrote on the board, he uses the term standard angle even though I don't think thats a common term used in physics or even math as i couldnt find anything on it.
https://imgur.com/a/7uScK3r
Relevant Equations
x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)
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Joe_mama69 said:
Homework Statement: Just got done with my first week in phyiscs (mechanics) and I'm pretty confused on to find the standard angle, We are currently learning vectors, and for example we had a problem were we had to calculate R from A and B, A was like 30 degrees in the first qaudrant and B was 36 degrees in the 3rd qaudrant....
Hi @Joe_mama69 and welcome to PF.

Your figures are hard to understand without a diagram. For example when you say "B was 36 degrees in the 3rd qaudrant" it's ambiguous. 36º could relative to the -x axis or relative to the -y axis.

Imagine a pointer fixed at the origin and pointing to the right (along the +x axis). That's 0º. Standard angles are then measured anticlockwise (ACW) from this position.

For example:
- rotate the pointer 90º ACW and this direction is 90º (+y axis);
- rotate the pointer another 90º ACW and this direction is 180º (-x axis);
- rotate the pointer another 90º ACW and this direction is 270º (-y axis);
- rotate the pointer another 90º ACW and this direction is 0º (+x axis) (same thing as 360º);

For example, draw the following for yourself:

1.The pointer is in the 3rd quadrant with 36º beetween it and the -x axis, the standard angle is 180º + 36º = 216º.

2. The pointer is in the 3rd quadrant with 36º between it and the -y axis, the standard angle is 270º - 36º = 234º.
 
Joe_mama69 said:
Homework Statement: Just got done with my first week in phyiscs (mechanics) and I'm pretty confused on to find the standard angle, We are currently learning vectors, and for example we had a problem were we had to calculate R from A and B, A was like 30 degrees in the first qaudrant and B was 36 degrees in the 3rd qaudrant, and he wanted us to use the standard angles when we calcualted the compnents, and somehow he got 60 degrees as the standard angle for A and 216 for B. I understand that he added 180 to 36 to get 216 and subtracted 30 from 90 to get 60, but in another example, A was 35 degrees in the fourth quadrant, and B was 10 degrees in the third quadrant, in which he got 325 as the standard angle of A and 190 for B again I understand that he 10 to 180 to get 190 for B and subtracted 35 from 360 for A, but overall I am confused on when to subtract or add and from which number to add or subtract from. But like in "normal math" the calculations are different like 30 degrees int eh frist quadrant would just be 30 degrees and 35 degrees in the fourth quadrant would be 395 degrees, so whats going on.
Relevant Equations: x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)

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Hello @Joe_mama69 ,
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Well, I have never heard of something like 'the standard angle', so I wouldn't know how to find it, or what to do with it. Also, I have never seen any exercise where an angle was given as 'like 30 degrees in the first quadrant'. Is that really the verbatim text in the problem statement ? Or is it your way of describing something like a picture on the blackboard ?

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The standard angle on a unit circle is defined as the angle starting at the positive x-axis and going counterclockwise the to the radius of interest. The arc-length between the positive x-axis and the radius of interest is a measure of the standard angle in radians.

Then it follows that
x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)

See how that matches the diagram you have.
 
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kuruman said:
The standard angle on a unit circle is defined as the angle starting at the positive x-axis and going counterclockwise the the radius of interest. The arc-length between the positive x-axis and the radius of interest is a measure of the standard angle in radians.

Then it follows that
x component = magnitude * cos(standard angle)
y component = magnitude * sin(standard angle)

See how that matches the diagram you have.
ahhh i think i get it now, i think i got confused becuase i thought the 30 degrees meant it would match the exact postion on the unit circle. Thank you so much!
 
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