Standard Deviation Problem in Physics. Help?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a standard deviation problem related to a Wheatstone bridge setup in physics. The original poster is trying to determine the minimum uncertainty in the calculation of resistance (Rx) based on given measurements and their uncertainties.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mixed

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss various methods for calculating deviation, including the potential use of the division rule and propagation of errors. There are questions about how to handle uncertainties in measurements and whether to sum them or use partial derivatives.

Discussion Status

There is an active exploration of different methods to calculate the uncertainty in Rx, with some participants expressing confusion over the various approaches. Guidance has been sought regarding the correct method to apply, but no consensus has been reached on a specific approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the original poster is working within the constraints of a physics course that does not cover calculus, which influences the methods they are considering for calculating deviation.

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Standard Deviation Problem in Physics. Help!?

Homework Statement



In working with Wheatstone bridge one student chose the value for R1 so that the bridge is balanced at L1 = 48.5 cm and L2 = 51.2 cm. If Each measurement has an uncertainty of +/- .05, what would be the minimum value for the uncertainty in the calculation of Rx?

Given Equation: Rx = (L2/L1)*R1

The Attempt at a Solution



I know that R1 can be eliminated when looking at this question. However, my main concern is how to find the deviation using the Division rule? I have been exposed to several methods of finding the deviation. It confuses me a lot!

My guess is that, regardless of the sign (multiplication, division, subtraction, addition), the deviation +/- .10 . it's just a sum of the two .05 uncertainties in measurements.

I just need confirmation. I don't want to end up screwing up this problem...It's kind of a crucial step for the next few problems. Thanks for any help I can get!
 
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How does the formula for calculating the deviation in Rx look like?
 
Rx = (51.2 +/- 0.050 cm)/(48.5 +/- 0.050 cm)

im ignoring R1 because a random value was chosen for it. anyways, it just comes down to the uncertainties. how to solve it? I am thinking about adding them up, which would be 0.10 cm. what do you think?
 
I don't think this is correct. You said that you know of some methods to find the deviation. Do you know a method where you have to take partial derivatives?
 
Edgardo said:
I don't think this is correct. You said that you know of some methods to find the deviation. Do you know a method where you have to take partial derivatives?

nope, we never learned that. I'm taking the trig-algebra based physics. we will never learn anything that involves calculus. what is the other way?
 
Hmm...I thought it was about "Propagation of errors". Can you show some of the methods to determine the deviation?
 
Edgardo said:
Hmm...I thought it was about "Propagation of errors". Can you show some of the methods to determine the deviation?

it is, but I'm confused because there are many ways to do it. the many ways to do it often end up with different answers...i mean WAY different! that's why I am asking this board. it's cool. thanks for the help. i appreciate it!
 
Show at least one way how to calculate it and some other that yields a different result as you say.
 

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