Star Trek-style crews: Logistical nightmare or not?

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The discussion revolves around the logistical challenges of accommodating diverse species on Federation starships in the Star Trek universe. Participants explore issues related to dietary needs, environmental requirements, and compatibility among various life forms, touching on theoretical and conceptual aspects of interspecies interactions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that replicators could address the diverse dietary needs of different species, though concerns about cross-contamination are noted.
  • Others suggest that environmental requirements, such as differing shower needs or atmospheric conditions, would complicate logistics.
  • There are mentions of specific characters, like Wesley and Mordock, highlighting the need for specialized breathing apparatus for certain species.
  • A few participants reference the idea of using advanced technology, such as force fields or mobile transmitters, to facilitate breathing for non-human crew members.
  • Some contributions reflect on the compatibility of species, referencing canonical elements like "The Chase" and speculative narratives about human-alien interactions.
  • Humor and hypothetical scenarios are introduced, such as the idea of an arsenic-based perfume, to illustrate the absurdity of compatibility claims.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a variety of viewpoints, with no clear consensus on the feasibility of accommodating diverse species aboard Federation ships. Multiple competing ideas regarding technology, compatibility, and logistical solutions remain unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include assumptions about technological capabilities, the nature of interspecies interactions, and the extent of compatibility among different life forms, which are not fully explored or agreed upon.

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We see many species of human/near-human on the Federation ships. It seems to me that there would be a logistics issue here. Things that are fine for humans might be poisonous for other species, and vice versa. Any idea how they would handle this? (Remember, Federation researchers will be reading this thread in a few hundred years.)
 
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Replicators would make the needed stuff.
Need more files for more diverse demands..
 
BillTre said:
Replicators would make the needed stuff.
Need more files for more diverse demands..
They'd have to keep an eye on cross-contamination, because it would possible that something tasty for one species would be deadly for another.

Then there's environmental issues. One species might need four showers a day while another needed them only as a medical treatment.
 
Okay, Sector General is floating around inside my head somewhere.
 
I suppose they could breath different atmospheres which would require masks and independent supplies or different gas isolated areas to house them.
Or maybe little mini-replicators over their noses making their atmospheric gasses as they needed it.
 
Some Federation crew do indeed have breathing apparti.

Remember Wesley (The Boy...??) and his friend taking the Starfleet exam? His friend had a respirator.
 
Impressive memory!
 
In the original series, ships were largely single species.

Galaxy Quest pointed this out in it's, as usual, wonderful way: "Are you enjoying your blood ticks, Dr. Lazarus?"
 
DaveC426913 said:
Some Federation crew do indeed have breathing apparti.

Remember Wesley (The Boy...??) and his friend taking the Starfleet exam? His friend had a respirator.
All I remember about the baby Crusher is the Usenet group in his honor, "Alt.ensign.wesley.die.die.die.die.die.die.die.die.die.die.die"
 
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There's a canonical reason so many Star Trek species are more or less compatible: The Chase
 
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jackwhirl said:
There's a canonical reason so many Star Trek species are more or less compatible: The Chase
I read a story onceuponatime that talked about humans going around the galaxy's edge, looking for alien species. Finally, on the far side of the galaxy from Earth they run into another spaceship. The usual formalities ensue, then they swap blood samples. On inspection it turns out that the "other guys" were humans as well. To give an upbeat ending the author then wrote "As one they all turned and looked outward, toward Andromeda."
 
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BillTre said:
Impressive memory!
You mean me? no.

Wesley's friend Mordock was a primary character in the ep.

And his respirator was prominent. It sat in front of his face - and it emitted fog.

Mordock.jpg
 
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Looks like a catfish.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
Some Federation crew do indeed have breathing apparti.

Remember Wesley (The Boy...??) and his friend taking the Starfleet exam? His friend had a respirator.
I propose that it would not be difficult to create a respirator with nothing more than force fields. All of the aliens could easily being wearing invisible respirators controlled by the computer.

Then again, it's a universe of human/vulcan hybrids. Genetically speaking, it'd probably be easier to breed with a dog.
 
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newjerseyrunner said:
I propose that it would not be difficult to create a respirator with nothing more than force fields. All of the aliens could easily being wearing invisible respirators controlled by the computer.
While true in principle, what would Mordock do when he left the Academy and went out for lunch?

I think, if I were used to wearing my glasses, I wouldn't be inclined to put them away once on-site, and let the bulding correct my vision for me. Some things are personal.

newjerseyrunner said:
Then again, it's a universe of human/vulcan hybrids. Genetically speaking, it'd probably be easier to breed with a dog.
As the Great Sagan once said: we'd have a better chance of mating with a petunia.
 
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DaveC426913 said:
While true in principle, what would Mordock do when he left the Academy and went out for lunch?

I think, if I were used to wearing my glasses, I wouldn't be inclined to put them away once on-site, and let the building correct my vision for me. Some things are personal.As The Great Sagan once said: we'd have a better chance of mating with a petunia.

Although breeding might not work in the normal way, transferring genes works fine already!
Maybe Mordock has some catfish genes and has tastebuds all over his head and barbels.
 
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Our life forms have been tested and are totally compatible. Do you like my Arsenic based perfume?
 
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Algr said:
Our life forms have been tested and are totally compatible. Do you like my Arsenic based perfume?
"Oh, I adore Paris green!"
 
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DaveC426913 said:
While true in principle, what would Mordock do when he left the Academy and went out for lunch?
In the 29th century, humans will invent a mobile transmitter to allow The Doctor to go leave the sick bay. I see no reason that other species haven't already done so. Clearly.
 
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newjerseyrunner said:
In the 29th century, humans will invent a mobile transmitter to allow The Doctor to go leave the sick bay. I see no reason that other species haven't already done so. Clearly.
How does that help poor Mordock?

If his species had micro-transporter-technology breathing-apparati - and it worked out in the open air - that's what he'd be using. They don't. Neither does Starfleet.
 
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Yeah, dealing with aliens is not necessarily a great analogy for racial integration--which would be the Star Trek concern. The methane breather might love and admire humanity to death--but he (she? it?) still needs to breath methane.
 

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