Start a Career in Computer Software: 24 Yr. Old's Guide

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The discussion centers around the potential for a 24-year-old community college student with no prior computer experience to start a career in computer software programming or web design. Participants explore the feasibility of entering the field later in life, the necessary skills, and resources for learning programming.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that anyone with logical and mathematical thinking skills can learn to program, emphasizing that prior experience with computers is less critical than the ability to think in certain patterns.
  • One participant suggests that learning about computers is valuable even outside of a professional context, as computers are ubiquitous in modern life.
  • A participant clarifies the distinction between programmers and designers, noting that programmers need systematic thinking and technical awareness, while designers focus on aesthetics and may not require as much technical skill.
  • Another participant recommends starting with complex JavaScript to gauge interest in programming before moving on to more advanced languages like Java and C++, suggesting that this approach can help determine commitment to the field.
  • It is mentioned that obtaining certifications and participating in programming contests can be beneficial for skill development, with examples of individuals from non-computer backgrounds succeeding in coding.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree that it is not too late to start a career in programming or web design, but there are differing views on the necessary skills and the distinction between programming and design roles. The discussion remains open regarding the best starting points and resources for learning.

Contextual Notes

Some limitations include the varying definitions of roles such as "programmer" and "designer," as well as the subjective nature of what constitutes being "behind the game" in terms of experience.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for individuals considering a career change into computer programming or web design, particularly those who feel they lack a traditional background in technology.

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I am a 24 yr. old going to community college. I know nothing about computers, but am fascinated by them and what they are capable of. I want to get a job as a computer software programmer or possibly a web designer. My question is: Is it too late for me? Is it even possible, given I am almost computer retarded. I have a passion to learn and the means, but most computer tech people I know have been working with computers since they were kids. Someone please give me some pointers.
 
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Anyone with a functioning set of brains and who can think logically and mathematically can learn to program. It's got less to do with your ability with computers and more with having affinity for being able of thinking in certain patterns. Besides, with most modern frameworks and languages, a lot of tools and features are already present which allow you to focus on actually building something instead of meddling with low-level hardware and a lot of frequently used things such as IO and database connections are already present in very convenient forms.

If you really want to learn something, then it's never too late. I'm 24 and only recently picked up a guitar. :P
 
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I am a 24 yr. old going to community college. I know nothing about computers, but am fascinated by them and what they are capable of. I want to get a job as a computer software programmer or possibly a web designer. My question is: Is it too late for me? Is it even possible, given I am almost computer retarded. I have a passion to learn and the means, but most computer tech people I know have been working with computers since they were kids. Someone please give me some pointers.

I think it's worthwhile to learn more about computers, even if you aren't going to do anything with computers professionally, since computers are everywhere.

You know how to post in a message board, use e-mail (to get an account on the message board), and can probably surf the net (to find this message board), so maybe these free online videos are right for you:

http://computerscience1.tv/2010/spring/

Just click on the play button and they should immediately start playing.

I used to be like you, not knowing anything and being scared about computers, but those videos helped me get started.
 
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computer software programmer or possibly a web designer

Just a clarification:

Programmers need to think systematically and be aware of the functionality and behavior of computers. Designers need to learn aesthetics and be comfortable with particular software packages. Having been a web programmer for 11 years, I know I've given certain people an enormously incorrect impression of myself by saying that I was a web designer. Effectively, designers don't have to be technically-savvy (it may help), but programmers do.

Technically, I'm not sure if there's a much of a distinction between "web developer" and "web programmer", but I think "programmer" implies a bit more technicality.

Anyway, I expect you'll be a bit behind the game, since most programmers seem to have started out pretty young. But by no means is it too late. I would probably recommend starting out with something like complex JavaScript, more-or-less as a test to see if you're really interested in programming or not. It's free, there's a lot of help available online, it's fairly robust, and it's easy to produce something handy.

If you're still interested in programming after having gotten into the gory-guts-of-code, then you can move onto the "truer" programming languages like Java and C++.

DaveE
 
It is of course never too late... do certifications and sign up and practice in programming contest websites like www.topcoder.com[/url], [url]www.spoj.pl[/url], [url]www.codeforces.com[/URL] etc. I have seen people of other streams like mechanical engineering doing well in coding.. so its never too late :)
 
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