Status of Relativistic Bohmian Mechanics: What Open Questions Remain?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the current status and open questions regarding relativistic Bohmian mechanics, particularly its compatibility with quantum field theory (QFT) and the standard model of particle physics. Participants explore theoretical frameworks, challenges, and ongoing research in this area.

Discussion Character

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant notes the difficulty in finding comprehensive reviews on relativistic Bohmian mechanics, highlighting a potential tension between the identification of "real" variables (beables) in different field theories.
  • Another suggests that deriving the standard model from non-relativistic physics could be a viable approach, mentioning the use of lattice models and the challenges posed by chiral interactions.
  • A different viewpoint proposes that particles may be ontological for both bosons and fermions in QFT, but acknowledges that this is not the only interpretation and that research is ongoing.
  • Participants share references to recent papers that address various aspects of relativistic Bohmian mechanics, including the possibility of formulating it without a preferred foliation and making it background independent.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of beables and the feasibility of deriving the standard model from non-relativistic frameworks. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives presented.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on specific definitions of "real" and "beables," as well as unresolved questions regarding the treatment of chiral interactions in lattice models.

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I am curious about recent progress in relativistic Bohmian mechanics. Finding a review is proving difficult (The closest I can find is a conference paper by H. Nikolic).

My understanding is a set of dynamical variables are identified as "real" (beables), and their (usually deterministic) time-evolution is obtained by decomposing the Schrödinger equation. But there seems to be some tension (at least there was in 2005) between Bohmian Mechanics and QFT insofar as what you label as "real" depends on what you want to calculate, and decomposition in a fermionic field theory suggests a different reality than in a bosonic field theory.

My question is, is there a single set of "beables" that consistently obtains both non-relativistic QM (including quantum computing) and the standard model of particle physics? Is this still an avenue of research?
 
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I think one possibility is to try to obtain the entire standard model from non-relativistic physics, for example a lattice model whose spacing is so fine that the violation of Lorentz invariance is less than what is observed. 't Hooft begins his exposition of QFT this way http://www.staff.science.uu.nl/~hooft101/lectures/basisqft.pdf. Another possibility for obtaining some aspects of the standard model from a non-relativistic model is http://arxiv.org/abs/hep-th/0507118.

I think the chief difficulty with putting the standard model on a lattice is whether chiral interactions can be described http://arxiv.org/abs/0912.2560.
 

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