What is the average acceleration of a cart with photogates 30 cm apart?

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The discussion revolves around calculating the average acceleration of a cart using photogates positioned 30 cm apart. The original poster provides specific time measurements from the LabQuest and expresses confusion regarding which times to use in their calculations, assuming an initial velocity of 0 m/s.

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  • Participants discuss the calculation of velocity and whether it represents final or average velocity. There is an exploration of the implications of assuming constant acceleration on the average acceleration calculation.

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The conversation is ongoing, with participants questioning the assumptions made in the calculations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the need to assume constant acceleration to derive certain values, but no consensus has been reached on the implications of this assumption.

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If the distance between the photogates in the diagram is 30 cm, and the times for the photogates on the LabQuest are listed as:
Blocked 0.00000
Unblocked 0.00156
Blocked 0.035
Calculate the average acceleration (in fundamental-standard units) of the cart. You should assume and initial velocity of 0 m/s and round your answer to 1 decimal place.

I know the average acceleration equation is delta v over delta t and I know how to find the change in velocity but I'm confused on what times to use.

My attempt:
Velocity=0.30m/(0.035)=8.5714m/s
Acceleration= (8.5714m/s-0m/s)/(0.035s-0s)=244.9m/s^2
 
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curiouspup34 said:
Velocity=0.30m/(0.035)=8.5714m/s
Obviously, the velocity is not constant. Be specific about what velocity this is.
 
haruspex said:
Obviously, the velocity is not constant. Be specific about what velocity this is.
This would be the final velocity
 
curiouspup34 said:
This would be the final velocity
Not according to the way you calculated it.
 
haruspex said:
Not according to the way you calculated it.
Then the average velocity? If this is so, is my issue that I need to find the final velocity because they gave me the initial already?
 
curiouspup34 said:
Then the average velocity? If this is so, is my issue that I need to find the final velocity because they gave me the initial already?
Yes.
You will have to assume constant acceleration (which makes the request to find the average acceleration a bit misleading).
 
haruspex said:
Yes.
You will have to assume constant acceleration (which makes the request to find the average acceleration a bit misleading).
So I would have
v final = (0.30m/.035s)(2) = 17.143 m/s
Avg acceleration = (17.143m/s)/(0.035s)=489.8 m/s^2
 
curiouspup34 said:
So I would have
v final = (0.30m/.035s)(2) = 17.143 m/s
Avg acceleration = (17.143m/s)/(0.035s)=489.8 m/s^2
Yes, but as I wrote you have to assume constant acceleration in order to claim that final velocity, so it is misleading to call the answer an "average" acceleration. If the acceleration is not constant then the average acceleration will not have that value.
 
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haruspex said:
Yes, but as I wrote you have to assume constant acceleration in order to claim that final velocity, so it is misleading to call the answer an "average" acceleration. If the acceleration is not constant then the average acceleration will not have that value.
Yeah that's true! Hm okay well I will assume constant acceleration now and go from there. Thank you for your help!
 

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