Homework Help: Ticker-Tape Cart, moving down ramp Experient, determine acceleration w/o graphs

1. Nov 2, 2009

hoho1

I have just done this experiment where i have a cart roll down a ramp and a ticker tape timer does its ticks on a tape atached to the cart.
already i can make a postion (or displacement from a dot of reference)- time table. for 1.0 second going down the ramp
i all ready have finished the questions and already know the carts moving with uniform acceleration. i have created position-time, velocity-time and acceleration-time graphs as well.

the question is "graphing is suggested for determining the acceleration. however, it is possible to apply the defining equation for average acceleration to determine the acceleration of the moving object... describe how you would do this, including the assumption(s) that you must make to solve the problem. (hint: how would you obtain a fairly accurate vale of final velocity?)"

2. Relevant equations
∆v =∆d/∆t a=∆v/∆d a=(vf-vi)/∆t

3. The attempt at a solution
because i can only use infomation not obtained through graphing i have that position-time table [at 0.0m, 0.0s; 1.85m, 0.2s; 5.0m,0.4s; 9.10m,0.6s; 14.1m, 0.8s; 20.0m,1.0s] and knowlegde its a constant acceleration problem. i chose a 0.0m marker at the first clear dot on the ticker tape, so where i choose it doesnt affect the results.

my try was intial velocity was 0m/s, change in time 1.0s, displacement 20.0cm

∆d=(vi ) ∆t+(a ∆t2)/2 which becuase of the above ∆d=(a(∆t)2)/2
then a=(2∆d)/(∆t2) but this results in the value of 40m/s2? this cant be right because my value that i got from the graphs gave me 24m/s2.

help needed for another way to solve this or find final velocity

oh yeah if no one knows ∆ is change in just in case, d is displacement, v is velocity, a is acceleration, t is time in s

Last edited: Nov 2, 2009
2. Nov 2, 2009

Delphi51

Welcome to PF, hoho.
The problem here is that there is error in the measurements - rounding the distance to the nearest 1 mm makes quite a difference when you take the difference between two such values. You need to average over many dots. The usual way to do this is with a table like this:

These are not your numbers - just an example from another tickertape experiment. Notice that you get wildly different numbers in the acceleration column, but averaging that last column will provide a reasonable value for the acceleration. I see I made a mistake on the last number - should be -300, not 300.