Stiffness in mass spring system

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The discussion revolves around the relationship between stiffness in a mass-spring system and the frequency of oscillation. Participants explore how changes in stiffness, often represented by the spring constant, affect the oscillation frequency.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the implications of increasing stiffness on frequency, referencing Hooke's law and equations related to oscillation. There are attempts to clarify the relationship between stiffness and frequency, with some participants questioning the validity of certain equations presented.

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The discussion is active, with participants sharing equations and clarifying concepts related to angular frequency and its relationship to stiffness. Some guidance has been offered regarding the proportional relationship between stiffness and frequency, though questions about specific equations remain open.

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There is uncertainty regarding the correct formulation of equations related to oscillation frequency and stiffness. Participants are navigating through definitions and relationships without reaching a definitive conclusion.

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Homework Statement


What happens to the frequency of oscillation if stiffness increases and why?


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Frequency increases but trying to figure out why.
 
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By stiffness I'm assuming you mean the spring constant, often known as k. It's found in Hooke's law F = -kx where F is the force the spring is exerting and x is the distance from the equilibrium point.

Don't you have some equations relating the frequency of the oscillations of the spring-mass system and the spring constant of the spring?
 
SHISHKABOB said:
By stiffness I'm assuming you mean the spring constant, often known as k. It's found in Hooke's law F = -kx where F is the force the spring is exerting and x is the distance from the equilibrium point.

Don't you have some equations relating the frequency of the oscillations of the spring-mass system and the spring constant of the spring?

a=[2pie f]^2x. So if k increases f increases which increases a(acceleration) and according to the formula given at the start frequency increases. If that make sense:blushing:
 
[itex]a = \left( 2 \pi f\right)^{2x}[/itex] ?

I don't recognize that equation >.> I'm very sorry

do you recognize

[itex]x \left( t \right) = Acos \left( \omega t - \phi \right)[/itex]

where

[itex]\omega = \sqrt{ \frac{k}{m}}[/itex]

is the angular frequency of the oscillation, A is the amplitude and [itex]\phi[/itex] is the phase shift?
 
SHISHKABOB said:
[itex]a = \left( 2 \pi f\right)^{2x}[/itex] ?

I don't recognize that equation >.> I'm very sorry

do you recognize

[itex]x \left( t \right) = Acos \left( \omega t - \phi \right)[/itex]

where

[itex]\omega = \sqrt{ \frac{k}{m}}[/itex]

is the angular frequency of the oscillation, A is the amplitude and [itex]\phi[/itex] is the phase shift?
Its a = \left( 2 \pi f\right)^{2} x.
I dint knew the 2nd equation but i get it now. stiffness is proportional to frequency according to that.but does the natural frequency of spring increases as well?
 
Smileyxx said:
Its a = \left( 2 \pi f\right)^{2} x.
I dint knew the 2nd equation but i get it now. stiffness is proportional to frequency according to that.but does the natural frequency of spring increases as well?

[itex]a = \left( 2 \pi f\right)^{2}x[/itex] makes much more sense :)

angular frequency is just the natural frequency times 2π

or

[itex]\omega = 2 \pi f[/itex]
 
SHISHKABOB said:
[itex]a = \left( 2 \pi f\right)^{2}x[/itex] makes much more sense :)

angular frequency is just the natural frequency times 2π

or

[itex]\omega = 2 \pi f[/itex]

Thanks a lot:biggrin:
 

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