Stirling's approximation limit problem

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The discussion revolves around evaluating limits involving factorial expressions, specifically using Stirling's approximation. The limits in question are: (2n)! / (n!)^2 and (n^n + 2^n) / (n! + 3^n), with participants expressing confusion about how these limits yield specific values as n approaches infinity.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the application of Stirling's approximation to evaluate the limits, with some questioning the necessity of this method and exploring alternative approaches. There is also a focus on identifying dominant terms in the expressions as n becomes large.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered hints and suggestions regarding the use of Stirling's approximation, while others are exploring the possibility of different methods to solve the limits. The conversation reflects a mix of understanding and uncertainty, with no explicit consensus reached on the best approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of limits to infinity and factorial approximations, with some expressing a desire for alternative methods beyond Stirling's approximation. There is an acknowledgment of the need for rigorous proof in some suggested approaches.

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Hi, I don't undestand this limits to infinity.



[ (2n)! / (n!)^2 ]^1/n

and

[ ( n^n + 2^n ) / (n! + 3^n) ]^1/n




I've absolutely no idea how the first one can be "4", and the seconda one "e". Assuming (1 + 1/n)^n = e I don't see how can I go from that form to this one. Any hint is appreciated.
 
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Hi nitai108! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
nitai108 said:
[ (2n)! / (n!)^2 ]^1/n

Hint: what, approximately, is (2n)! / n! ?
[ ( n^n + 2^n ) / (n! + 3^n) ]^1/n

Hint: which bits of the top and the bottom can you ignore? :wink:
 


To evaluate the first limit I would use Stirling's approximation, namely that n! \approx n^{n}e^{-n} (and (2n)! \approx (2n)^{2n}e^{-2n}) for large n.
 
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For the second limit, do what tiny-tim suggested and then use Stirling's approximation.
 


Thanks tiny-tim, and thanks Random Variable, I did solve them pretty easily with the Stirling's approximation.

Is there any other way to solve them, without Stirling's approx.?
 
nitai108 said:
Is there any other way to solve them, without Stirling's approx.?

The first one, you could say (2n)! is approximately (2n)2(2n-2)2 … 22

(but you'd have to prove that rigorously)

… which makes it fairly easy :wink:
 


Ok, thanks a lot.
 

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