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If I stir cream into my coffee, what prevents me from stirring counter-clockwise, and the cream seperating again?
The discussion centers on the physics of mixing, specifically the irreversible nature of certain mixing processes, such as stirring cream into coffee or grating cheese. Participants reference a demonstration involving glycerin and dye, illustrating laminar flow, where reversing the motion of a cylinder can seemingly "unmix" the dye. However, this effect is not perfectly reversible, as diffusion will eventually occur, leading to true mixing. The conversation also touches on the relationship between these physical principles and quantum mechanics.
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If I have a pool of water, make a wave, then put opposite wave on it, the pool will be tranquil again.Tide said:There are several more or less sophisticated answers one can give to such a question but basically it's the same reason why you cannot ungrate cheese by reversing the motion of your hand on the grater.
Danger said:I saw a right freaky demonstration a few decades ago. There were two very specific chemical combinations that did separate when the stirring motion was reversed. I have no idea where I saw it, or what the compounds were. At the time, I thought that it was a serious experiment, but I suppose that someone might have been reversing the film. Anyone out there familiar with it?
Mk said:If I have a pool of water, make a wave, then put opposite wave on it, the pool will be tranquil again.

I believe that the demo you are referring uses glycerin to fill the region between a pair of concentric cylinders. A streak of dye is injected into the glycerin then the interior cylinder is slowly rotated, apparently mixing the dye into the glycerin. Reversing the motion of the inner cylinder "unmixed" the dye. It returns nearly perfectly to its original steak like condition.Danger said:I saw a right freaky demonstration a few decades ago. There were two very specific chemical combinations that did separate when the stirring motion was reversed. I have no idea where I saw it, or what the compounds were. At the time, I thought that it was a serious experiment, but I suppose that someone might have been reversing the film. Anyone out there familiar with it?
I saw it on television, then they explained how it realted to quantum mechanics. How?Integral said:This is actually a demo of laminar flow of a fluid, the dye is not really mixed, just stretched out. Over time the dye will diffuse into the glycerin, truly mixing it.