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The discussion centers around the storage of energy in a spiral power spring for a project involving solar energy and a dynamo. Participants explore the appropriate formulas and concepts for calculating the energy stored in such a spring, particularly focusing on the differences between compression springs and torsional springs.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant seeks help in calculating the energy stored in a spiral power spring, noting its application in a solar-powered project.
  • Another participant provides the formula for potential energy in a compression spring, PE=1/2kx^2, but does not address the specifics of a spiral spring.
  • A participant clarifies that a spiral spring does not compress or extend but instead winds up, prompting a request for the appropriate equation for this scenario.
  • One participant suggests that the spring constant could be a function of angular displacement, indicating a need for further exploration of torsional springs.
  • A later reply explains how to calculate the energy stored in a torsional spring using the angular form of Hooke's Law, providing a detailed integration approach.
  • Another participant warns about the potential issue of over-winding a power spring, which could lead to energy loss due to friction, while affirming the use of the formula V = (1/2) K theta^2 for power springs.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the appropriate equations for calculating energy in spiral power springs versus compression springs. There is no consensus on a single formula applicable to the scenario presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants discuss the differences between compression springs and torsional springs, highlighting the need for specific parameters like the spring constant and torsion coefficient. There are unresolved aspects regarding the application of these formulas to the specific context of a spiral power spring.

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Hi,

I'm doing a project where I need to store energy in a spring with the use of a motor powered by solar energy. The energy must be stored and after a while released to a dynamo which converts the energy to electrical energy. I would like to use a spiral power spring, but I can't find any formulas on how to compute the amount of energy stored in such a spring. Please help, any other suggestions will also be much appreciated.

Thank you!
 
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well the potential energy stored in a spring can be calculated using PE=1/2kx^2 where PE is potential energy, k is the spring constant and x is the amount of compression or extension (length).

Power is work over time...
 
Thanx, but a spiral spring does not extend or compress, it just gets wound up more tightly, like the spring in a watch. What equation will I use in this case?
 
I would image that
k = f(d\theta)
 
The energy stored in a compression (or tension) spring with a spring constant is determined by integrating the spring's force constant times distance.

Hooke's Law:
F = k*x

So:
PE = \int k*x dx = \frac{1}{2}k*x^{2}

For a torsional spring if you know the spring's torsion coefficient, a similar calculation can be used with the angular form of hooke's law:

Angular Hooke's law:
\tau = \kappa*\theta

PE = \int \kappa*\theta d\theta = \frac{1}{2}\kappa*\theta^{2}

Where Kappa is the spring's torsion coefficient, and theta is the displacement in radians. Kappa's units would be Newton-Meters per Radian.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Torsion_spring
 
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One thing to watch in using a power spring (like a watch spring) is not to let it get wound too tight. If it is over wound, the leaf to leaf friction will hinder the unwinding action and absorb some of the stored energy, thus robbing you of some of the input effort.

The V = (1/2) K theta^2 law works just fine for a power spring.
 

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