Strain gauge to measure wood expanasivity.

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers on the use of a strain gauge to measure the expansivity of wood at different temperatures. Participants explore the setup, calibration, and potential challenges associated with this measurement technique, including the appropriate circuit design and heating methods for the wood.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Homework-related

Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the necessity of a Wheatstone bridge circuit for the strain gauge and seeks advice on heating the wood without damaging the gauge.
  • Another participant suggests checking with the strain gauge supplier for setup instructions and recommendations for specific gauges suitable for wood.
  • A different contributor notes that while a Wheatstone bridge is commonly used, many strain gauge modules have this circuit built-in, and cautions about the sensitivity of strain gauges to temperature variations.
  • One participant expresses confusion about how to start their homework, particularly regarding drawing diagrams for the apparatus and circuit.
  • Another participant provides references to resources that include diagrams and installation guides for strain gauges.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of using strain gauges for measuring thermal expansion, as they are typically used for mechanical strain, and the importance of matching the thermal expansion coefficient of the gauge with that of the wood is highlighted.
  • It is suggested that an extensometer might be a better tool for measuring thermal strain in wood, especially if the wood is not enclosed in an oven during testing.
  • References to literature on wood properties and thermal expansion are shared, emphasizing that strain gauges may not be the standard method for this type of measurement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express uncertainty about the effectiveness of strain gauges for measuring thermal expansion in wood, with some suggesting alternative methods. There is no consensus on the best approach or the appropriateness of the strain gauge for this application.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need for careful calibration and consideration of the thermal properties of both the strain gauge and the wood. The discussion reflects a range of experiences and knowledge levels regarding the use of strain gauges in this context.

billsalmon
Hi!
Im measuring how much wood expands in different temperatures using a strain gauge.
do i need to use a wheatstone bridge circuit schematic? or else how do i heat up the wood without spoiling the strain gauge. Actually how will i heat up the wood anyway?
Also how would i draw a diagram to show the apparatus? and how do you attach the strain gauge to the wood- is it with ps adhesive?
Your help is much needed and very much appreciated if you know.
thanks.
 
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Have you used a strain gage before? Or do you have one in mind. I would expect the supplier has some instructions on setting up a gage, and perhaps some recommendations on what gage to use with what material.

Let me check around.
 
Yes normally a Wheatstone works however, many strain gage modules have the Wheatstone bridge build in (Labview, NI). I always had trouble calibrating strain gages or having them to do what the factory said (probably my fault). Be careful because they might be sensitive to temperatures. "Each strain gage wire material has its characteristic gage factor, resistance, temperature coefficient of gage factor, thermal coefficient of resistivity, and stability".

http://www.omega.com/literature/transactions/volume3/strain.html
 
i need help on this too...i dnt knw homework 2 start at all!and i dnt knw homework to draw a diagram for the apparatus and even a circuit diagram
 
has anyone finished this??!
 
The site provided by jaap de vries is a good reference.

Here is another - http://www.kyowa-ei.co.jp/english/technical_info/ch1_2.htm
Strain Gage Installation Guide Chapter 1 & 2

It has diagrams of gages and circuits.


Now it seems unusual to measure thermal expansion with strain gages, since the traditional purpose is to measure mechanical strain which is different from thermal strain. Normally, one would match the thermal expansion coefficient of the gage with the material, which effectively eliminates (or at least minimizes) the thermal strain. In the case where one wants to measure thermal strain, then one needs a strain gage with a very low (as much as possible) thermal expansion coefficient. There are apparently strain gages for wood and concrete, but I believe these are primarily designed for measuring mechancial strain.

Presumably the wood is enclosed within an oven? Otherwise I'd recommend an extensometer, which is used in tensile test experiments.
 
In general, if it deals with wood properties and mesasurement, it is reported at the FPL.
It is the very best place to start.

'Wood as an Engineering Material' from the Forest Products Lab in Madison WI:
http://www.fpl.fs.fed.us/documnts/fplgtr/fplgtr113/

Chapters, index, etc. and/or the whole book are there in pdf.

Astronuc is right: strain gages are not usually the standard way to deal with this, AFAIK.
Some other older references I have floating around:

Kubler, H.; Liang, L.; Chang, L.S. 1973. Thermal expansion
of moist wood. Wood and Fiber. 5(3): 257-267.

Weatherwax, R.C.; Stamm, A.J. 1947. The coefficients of
thermal expansion of wood and wood products. Transactions
of American Society of Mechanical Engineers. 69(44):
421–432.

ASTM. 1997. Standard methods for testing small clear
specimens of timber. ASTM D143. West Conshohocken,
PA: American Society for Testing and Materials.
 

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