Stress and Strain problems help

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to stress and strain, specifically focusing on calculating the allowable shear stress and safety factor for a pin in a mechanics context. Participants are attempting to solve a problem presented in an attached file, which includes calculations and assumptions about shear forces and material strengths.

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  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion over their calculated allowable shear stress for Pin A being 431.5 MPa, which exceeds the ultimate shear stress of 350 MPa, suggesting a potential logical error in their approach.
  • Another participant mentions that their safety factors are similar to those provided but notes possible rounding errors, indicating that the vertical height in the problem may be misread.
  • There is a suggestion that distortion energy theory should be applied for a more accurate answer, although the problem is viewed as an exercise in finding forces.
  • A participant requests clarification on how to arrive at the correct answer, emphasizing their desire to learn and improve problem-solving skills.
  • One participant advises summing moments about point A to solve for tension and provides a method for calculating shear stress, while also requesting the original poster to show their work for better assistance.
  • Another participant shares their problem-solving steps, indicating they calculated reaction forces and allowable stress but remains uncertain about the rope's contribution to the problem.
  • A participant reflects on a misunderstanding of "tensile strength," clarifying that their recent calculations align with the problem sheet's answers.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the correct approach or solution to the problem. Multiple competing views and methods are presented, and uncertainty remains regarding the calculations and interpretations of terms like tensile strength.

Contextual Notes

There are limitations in the clarity of the problem statement due to the attachment's readability, and participants express differing interpretations of the vertical height involved in the calculations. Additionally, the discussion reflects varying levels of understanding of mechanics concepts among participants.

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Does anyone help me to solve this problem in the attached file?

When I solved this problem, I got wrong answers.

Attached file is the image file with the problem and answer. (Question No.3)

I think I have to find allowable shear stress of Pin A to find the safety factor of this pin,

since its ultimate shear strenght is already given. (vertical height is 500mm)

However, My allowable stress for Pin A is 431.5MPa, which is far more than its ultimate

shear stress.

I took moment at B and C to find the shear force of Pin A. (and Pin A is in double shear)

so I used the formula " shear stress = shear force / (area of shear plane) * 2 " to find the

shear force, and I got the answer above(431.5Mpa) while its ultimate shear stress is 350MPa.

I still don't get what is the problem.. (I think there are logical errors on my thought).

Please help!
 

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I get safety factors similar to what is given there, but they're a little off. Could just be rounding error. The vertical height is 600 right? It's a little hard to read.

Technically the answer will be much less, because you should use the distortion energy theory, but the problem seems just an exercise in actually finding the forces. Hopefully someone can be buggered to type out the solution for you.
 
vertical height is actually 500mm.
 
Could anyone can explain to me how you get the right answer? I know it's a basic question, but it's my first time to learn mechanics. It will be really helpful to me. Thx.

Vadar2012, don't be sarcastic.
My purpose of posting this question is to learn from people who are professional
in this area and to develop my problem solving skills.
Whether you get the answer or not, it's not important and its meaningless.
 
Where was I sarcastic? I was just letting you know I got similar answers to what was given, but wasn't going to type it out if I had the wrong vertical height.

To be fair I can see how I was. It was just meant to read that I couldn't be buggered. You could always type out or attach your working, and we can go through that.
 
You should sum moments about A to solve for T. Then the x component of T is the x component of A, and the y component of A is the algebraic sum of the (vert comp of the tension + the applied 15 kN force). watch signs. The resultant force of A is the sq rt of the sum of the squares. The shear force on the pin (dbl shear) is half of that. The shear stress is the shear force divided by the area.
I see no sarcasm intended at all in Vadar2012's post. But solutions will not be typed out for you. Please show your work and we can better assist in finding your errors, or the book's errors, whatever the case might be.
 
The attached files are my solution for this problem.

I know some of words are not English, you may ignore it.

My problem solving step for this problem is

1) find the reaction force at A (I took moment at B and C to find out vertical and horizontal force of pin A.

2) Since Pin A is double shear, (allowable shear stress = Force / 2* area)
3) my allowable stress is almost 430Mpa, which is more than ultimate shear stress

For the rope, I don't know how to solve.
If I did any wrong, please let me know.
 

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I think I have misunderstanding in the meaning of "tensile strength". I just solved the problem, and got the similar answer from the problem sheet. I thought tensile strength = the allowable force of extending steel, but it was not.
 

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