Stresses along different planes in polycrystalline materials

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The discussion revolves around the behavior of stresses in polycrystalline materials, particularly in relation to different planes and the application of Mohr's circle in understanding these stresses during uniaxial tensile tests. The conversation touches on concepts from material science, including slip planes and critically resolved shear stress.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the presence of different grains and slip planes in polycrystalline materials leads to varying stresses on different planes, as analyzed through Mohr's circle.
  • Others argue that Mohr's circle does not account for the crystalline structure of materials and question its applicability to homogeneous materials.
  • A participant emphasizes that stresses differ across planes because stress is a tensor, indicating that the nature of stress is inherently multi-dimensional.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the relationship between slip planes and the stresses found on oblique planes, asking whether they are related or separate concepts.
  • Another participant asserts that the concepts of slip planes and oblique stresses are entirely separate, suggesting that understanding stresses requires further study.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express disagreement regarding the relationship between slip planes and the stresses on different planes. While some believe they are connected, others maintain they are separate concepts. The discussion remains unresolved on this point.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the lack of clarity on the definitions of terms like slip planes and critically resolved shear stress, as well as the dependence on the understanding of stress as a tensor. There are unresolved questions about the applicability of Mohr's circle to different material types.

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A polycrystalline material is made up of many grains and grain boundaries. Each grain consists of lattices in different planes and hence different slip planes. Is that why we find stresses on different planes using mohrs circle(or analytically) even in a uniaxial tensile test.
 
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No.

Does Mohr's circle contain any information about the crystalline structure of the material? How would it know then? Would Mohr's circle work for perfectly homogenous material?

The stresses are different in different planes because stress is a tensor.
 
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No.

Does Mohr's circle contain any information about the crystalline structure of the material? How would it know then? Would Mohr's circle work for perfectly homogenous material?

The stresses are different in different planes because stress is a tensor.
To add, Mohr's circle also applies to homogeneous materials.
 
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Thanks for the replies.
I am still a bit unclear. Is there a relation between the slip planes, critically resolved shear stress that we study in material science and the stresses that we find on oblique planes in strength of materials. Or are they separate? If they are separate, where do the oblique planes come from.
 
They are entirely separate.

I cannot easily explain in very simple terms why the stress is different for different planes other than to say that they are tensors. Maybe the only thing I can say is that if you have a cylinder in axial load, then a plane at a right angle with the axis will give you only normal stresses and no shear stresses. If instead you take a plane that is parallel to the axis you will find only shear stresses and no normal stresses. This is maybe something you can imagine.

If you want to know more, you need to study stresses.
 

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