Struggling with Knowledge vs Grades: My College Experience | Seeking Advice

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The discussion centers around the challenges of balancing knowledge acquisition with achieving good grades in college. Participants share their experiences with educational practices, the effectiveness of teaching methods, and the pressures of academic performance. The conversation touches on both personal frustrations and broader educational concerns, particularly in the context of different educational systems.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses frustration over peers who succeed by memorizing and submitting work without understanding, questioning whether this is a common issue globally or specific to their country.
  • Another participant suggests discussing concerns with the dean, although they acknowledge the difficulty of this approach and the perceived disconnect between administration and student experiences.
  • A later reply emphasizes the long-term consequences of not understanding course material, suggesting that a focus solely on grades may not be beneficial in the long run.
  • Participants discuss the importance of providing feedback to professors to improve course quality, highlighting the student's right to expect effective instruction.
  • There is a suggestion to reconsider views on university administrators, noting that their focus on reputation is tied to the quality of graduates rather than just grades.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the effectiveness of current educational practices and the motivations behind them. While some agree on the importance of understanding material over merely obtaining grades, others remain skeptical about the potential for change within the educational system.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight limitations in teaching quality and course structure, as well as the challenges of addressing these issues with administration. There is an acknowledgment of cultural differences in educational practices, particularly between the participant's experiences in India and those in other countries.

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Students navigating similar frustrations in their academic environments, educators seeking to understand student perspectives, and administrators interested in improving educational quality may find this discussion relevant.

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In my college every month we have test and assignments on various subject, if one want mark they can just copy the notes from an website and submit it has assignments without having any idea of why assignment is really given and what is about.in test many of them simple memorize and vomit it.and they get good grade! But if anyone tried to have depth knowledge of subject then lots of time are need but generally it's not at all enough to prepare for the exam...and my professor 50percent of them teach good but the rest they just give book reading lecture and go away and usually not completing they syllabus I'm irritated i think i should also do what my friends are doing! Does these th ings are only in my country or do they happen in America and europe

Need a advice =>frustrated!
 
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I would talk to the dean, let him know that you are worried about how the exams are being set.
 
ajayguhan said:
Does these th ings are only in my country or do they happen in America and europe

What is your country? Mind me asking?
 
Talking to my dean ...hmmm sounds practically impossible thing and even if you did, i don't think there will be any change because these higher level people don't understand the problem from our view all they want is reputation to his college.I'm from India
 
1. Blindly copying answers is a poor strategy. It might pay off in some courses in the short term, but eventually, if you don't understand what you're doing it will catch up with you. If not in this course, than in the next one or the next.

2. You also have to ask yourself why you are taking the course in the first place. You went to school to learn right? If you're only interested in a grade, then maybe you can look for easiest way to get that.

3. It's best not to concern yourself too much with what other people are doing.

4. If you are not happy with your courses, first speak to the professor. They need feedback from students if they are going to change. Remember, if you are paying to be in the course, you have a right to expect quality in the instruction.

5. You may want to reconsider your point about university administrators. Sure they care about the school's reputation, but that's built on the quality of the graduates the school produces, not the grades they give their graduates.
 

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