Stuck doing parametric natural log graphs

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The discussion revolves around the challenges of eliminating parameters in parametric natural log graphs, specifically with the equations x = e^t and y = e^(3t). Participants clarify that using properties of logarithms can simplify the process, leading to the conclusion that y can be expressed as y = x^3 without needing to isolate t. One user initially struggled with the concept but eventually understood the solution by applying logarithmic rules. The conversation emphasizes the importance of familiarity with logarithmic properties when working with such equations. Overall, the thread highlights effective strategies for simplifying parametric equations in mathematical contexts.
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I haven’t done logs in a few month and let alone with parametric graphs. I am having trouble with this problem. #35
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X=e^t, y=e^3t
I got stuck when i eliminated the parameter.
 

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Witcher said:
I got stuck
in full sight of the harbour as they say in shipping language: ##y = e^{3\log x}## should remind you of something like ##e^{ab} = e^{ba}##

[edit]I use ##\log## for e based logarithms. Only engineers confuse e and 10, which is why they need ##\log## and ##\ln## :smile: .
 
You have x= e^t and y= e^{3t}= (e^t)^3 so y= x^3. I don't see any reason to use logarithms.
 
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You can keep “e^t” and isolate t without using logrithms?
 
Witcher said:
You can keep “e^t” and isolate t without using logrithms?
Yes, because you don't need to isolate t. As has already been explained, ##e^{3t} = (e^t)^3##, so you can write y in terms of x, getting rid of the parameter t.
 
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Witcher said:
Homework Statement:: I haven’t done logs in a few month and let alone with parametric graphs. I am having trouble with this problem. #35
Homework Equations:: X=e^t, y=e^3t

I got stuck when i eliminated the parameter.
Hello, @Witcher . I see that you've been a member for a couple of months, but why not give you a welcome?
:welcome:

You have been led to and/or given shorter ways to the answer, but your start was OK.

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Recall that ##\ \ C\cdot \ln(x) = \ln(x^C) ##.

Apply that to ##\ \ 3(\ln(x)) ##, and proceed .
 
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I get it now but it wasn’t easy, my instinct was to Ln both sides when i seen the e

Thanks.
 
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Witcher said:
I get it now but it wasn’t easy, my instinct was to Ln both sides when i seen the e.

Thanks.
As I mentioned, the path you started down was fine. It makes sense to work with the logarithm rules you may currently be studying and/or those rules you are most familiar with.

Carrying on from where you left off, (with ##\displaystyle y=e^{3(\ln(x))} ##):

You then have ##\displaystyle y=e^{\ln(x^3)} ##.

The final result follows immediately. (I hope.)
 
One can also use the fact that ##a^{bc}=(a^b)^c##.
 
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