How do you sketch (x^2-5)^2+y^2=16 without a calculator or software?

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The discussion revolves around sketching the graph of the equation (x^2-5)^2+y^2=16, focusing on understanding its geometric properties without the use of calculators or software. The subject area includes algebra and geometry, particularly the interpretation of equations in the context of graphing.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore various methods for sketching the graph, including the use of parametric equations and identifying symmetries. There is discussion about transforming coordinates and determining points on the graph based on the equation.

Discussion Status

The conversation includes attempts to clarify the relationship between the given equation and its graphical representation. Some participants have provided insights into the geometric interpretation of the equation, while others are still questioning how to effectively transform the coordinates for sketching.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention the need to understand the transformation from x^2 and y axes to the standard xy axes, indicating a potential gap in knowledge regarding coordinate transformations. There is also a reference to using basic tools for sketching, suggesting a hands-on approach to the problem.

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Homework Statement
curve sketching
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calculus
Someone told me to use parametric equations to find symmetries first
but are there other methods to sketch this graph?
How do you think
 
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Take x^2 axis and y axis. The figure is the circle centered at (5,0) with radius 4. Then it is easy to transform it to x-y axes.
 
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Yeah that's interesting
mitochan said:
Take x^2 axis and y axis. The figure is the circle centered at (5,0) with radius 4. Then it is easy to transform it to x-y axes.
actually I don't know how to transform x^2 y-axis to xy axis...
 
x^2=1 corresponds x=-1,1
x^2=9 corresponds x=-3,3
x^2=5 corresponds x=-sqrt5, sqrt5, etc.
You then got six (x,y) points.

Edit: not six, eight (x,y) points
 
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mitochan said:
x^2=1 corresponds x=-1,1
x^2=9 corresponds x=-3,3
x^2=5 corresponds x=-sqrt5, sqrt5, etc.
You then got six (x,y) points.
got it thanks
 
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GravitySK said:
got it thanks
Can we see?
 
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Now that you know that the circle is centered at (5,0) and has radius 4 units, to sketch it without a calculator or software, get a cheap compass, spread it to a distance of 4 units, put the pointy end at (5,0) units and draw the circle. You can also do it with a nail, some string and a pencil.
 
You also easily get x co-ordinates of four points where y = 0, and symmetry tells you something about their special nature.
 

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