Stuck (Kinetic Energy & Pressure of Meteoroids)

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The discussion revolves around calculating kinetic energy and pressure related to meteoroid impacts on Earth and Jupiter, focusing on specific parameters such as density and velocity. The subject area includes astrophysics and gravitational physics.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • Participants explore the implications of zero velocity at a large distance and its effect on calculating total energy. There is a discussion about the reference point for potential energy in gravitational contexts. Some participants share their calculations for kinetic energy and question the meaning of pressure in this context, particularly regarding the area over which it should be calculated.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their reasoning and calculations. There is a recognition of the complexity of defining pressure in the context of the problem, and multiple interpretations of the requirements are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants are grappling with the definitions and assumptions surrounding zero velocity and the reference points for energy calculations. There is uncertainty about how to define the area for pressure calculations in the context of a meteoroid impact.

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Hi there,

I'm helping tutor a friend in astrophysics and I've come across a question I can't answer - which is annoying and embarassing to say the least :)

The question reads:

(a) Calculate the kinetic energy and pressure involved when the Earth gets hit by a stony meteoroid (ρ = 3400 kg/m3) that has a diameter of 10km and a zero velocity at a very large distance from the Earth.

(b) Calculate the kinetic energy and pressure involved if the same meteoroid were to hit Jupiter instead of the Earth, assuming the body has zero velocity at a large distance from Jupiter

(c) Calculate the kinetic energy and pressure involved when a fragment of Comet D/Shoemaker-Levy 9 (ρ = 500 kg/m3, R = 0.5km) hits Jupiter at the planet's escape velocity.

My problem is the zero velocity at a very large distance from the Earth. I can't figure out a reference point from which I can calculate total energy -- 1/2mv^2 means nothing at zero velocity, and "large distance" tells me nothing for calculating total energy.

Any help/hints/tips would be appreciated!
 
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spinnaker said:
My problem is the zero velocity at a very large distance from the Earth. I can't figure out a reference point from which I can calculate total energy ##\ldots##
In cases of gravitation, it is usual to pick the zero point of potential energy to be at infinity.

##\ldots## -- 1/2mv^2 means nothing at zero velocity,
Having a value of zero is not the same as meaning nothing.
 
Fair enough, I've been tinkering and I think I found my initial issue. I made 0 = 1/2mv^2 -GM(earth)m(asteroid)/r(earth) and I get 8.88e23 J, which is realistic. Equates to an impact of about 11km/s.

I still don't know what they mean by pressure involved, though.
 
I'm not sure what they want for the pressure, either. Obviously the force per unit area of the collision, but which area? The entire cross-sectional area of the Earth, or just the immediate area of the impact? I would guess the former, but I'm not positive.
 

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