Stuck on a Conservation of Energy problem

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The discussion revolves around a conservation of energy problem involving a block sliding down a curved ramp. The block's initial and final heights are provided, and participants are tasked with determining the distance it travels after leaving the ramp, both in a frictionless scenario and one with friction involved.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the conservation of energy equation, noting the initial and final heights of the block. There is an exploration of the initial and final velocities, with some questioning the assumption of the block's speed at the top of the ramp.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, clarifying the values for height and velocity. Some guidance has been provided regarding the initial conditions of the block, particularly its velocity at the top of the ramp.

Contextual Notes

There is an emphasis on the conditions of the ramp, specifically whether it is frictionless or not, and how this affects the energy calculations. The time taken to reach distance D is also noted as a constant factor in both scenarios.

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Homework Statement


A 1.9-kg block slides down a curved, frictionless ramp. The top of the ramp is 1.5m above the ground; the bottom of the ramp is 0.25m above the ground. The block leaves the ramp moving horizontally, and lands distance D away.

A) What is distance D away?

B) Suppose the ramp is not frictionless. Find the distance D for the case in which friction on the ramp does 9.7 J of work on the block before it enters the horizontal (and still frictionless) section towards D.

For both A) and B) the time is 4.0s at distance D.


Homework Equations


Potential Energy (1) + Kinetic Energy (1) = Potential Energy (2) + Kinetic Energy (2)
mgh(1) + 1/2*m*v^2(1) = mgh(2) + 1/2*m*v^2(2)

(basically the first part is at the top of the ramp and the final is at the bottom of the ramp)

The Attempt at a Solution


Since the ramp is frictionless, the block is going at a constant speed. However, when I tried using the equation it didn't work out so there's probably another way.
 
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You have posted the correct formula. However, the block is accelerated: it has no velocity at the top, but a positive velocity at the bottom. Obviously, m and g are given in the problem. Can you give me the appropriate values for h(1), v(1), h(2) and v(2) ?
 
h(1) is 1.5m (reference point is the ground).

h(2) is 0.25m (reference point is the ground).

We don't know v(1) or v(2).
 
ova5676 said:
We don't know v(1) or v(2).
I would presume that the block starts from rest at the top of the ramp. So v(1) = 0. Use energy conservation to solve for v(2).
 

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