Stuck on (proving) a linear charge problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to proving concepts in electrostatics, specifically involving linear charge distributions and their effects. Participants are exploring the mathematical relationships and physical principles underlying the problem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants are attempting to understand the transition from an inverse square root to a final equation, questioning the relevance of certain mathematical forms, such as the relationship between a^2/x^2 and trigonometric substitutions. There are discussions about the application of Taylor expansions and the generalization of point charge interactions to continuous charge distributions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing their thoughts on the problem and seeking clarification on specific aspects. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of Taylor expansions and the relevance of certain mathematical definitions, but no consensus has been reached on the best approach to the problem.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about their previous knowledge in calculus and physics, which may be impacting their understanding of the current problem. There is mention of having completed earlier parts of the problem, which suggests varying levels of familiarity with the material.

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Homework Statement



Question:[/B]
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And the answer in the solution manual:
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Homework Equations


Trig sub? [tex]a^2/x^2 = tan(θ)[/tex]
I'm thinking x>>a would affect this majorly and I'm not seeing how.

The Attempt at a Solution


I understand the concept behind this (I think), but part c is killing me right now. I have no idea how the inverse square root turns into the final equation. Maybe I should have posted this in Calculus, but I have no recollection of learning this in calc I/II, nor physics I/II so I didn't know where to post.

The [tex]a^2/x^2[/tex] looks eerily similar to a trig sub problem, but I don't see how that would work because there's no integral.

For [tex]E_x,[/tex] I was able to set the limit of a to 0 to get the point charge equation. The solution manual didn't do it this way but it worked for me to get the point charge equation.

BTW I already have a) and b), which were pretty straightforward.
Could someone point me in the right direction please? Thank you!
 
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FlyingButtress said:

Homework Equations


Trig sub? [tex]a^2/x^2 = tan(θ)[/tex]
You should double-check that with the definition of the tangent.

3. The Attempt at a Solution
I understand the concept behind this (I think), but part c is killing me right now. I have no idea how the inverse square root turns into the final equation. Maybe I should have posted this in Calculus, but I have no recollection of learning this in calc I/II, nor physics I/II so I didn't know where to post.

The [tex]a^2/x^2[/tex] looks eerily similar to a trig sub problem, but I don't see how that would work because there's no integral.

For [tex]E_x,[/tex] I was able to set the limit of a to 0 to get the point charge equation. The solution manual didn't do it this way but it worked for me to get the point charge equation.

BTW I already have a) and b), which were pretty straightforward.
Could someone point me in the right direction please? Thank you!
Assuming you have the first two parts, you might want to take a look at the Taylor expansion of those answers.
 
How do you come to the conclusion that your equation is relevant for the problem? You should rather think about the question, how to calculate the force between two point charges and then how you can generalize this to many point charges and finally to a continuous charge distribution!
 
tms said:
You should double-check that with the definition of the tangent.Assuming you have the first two parts, you might want to take a look at the Taylor expansion of those answers.

Ah, okay. The format change to (1+x)^(n) is making more sense now... I'm very rusty on infinite series so I'll have to take some time to review. From a brief look at my calc book it looks like it matches the binomial series. Will spend more time to see if it is right. Thanks!

vanhees71 said:
How do you come to the conclusion that your equation is relevant for the problem? You should rather think about the question, how to calculate the force between two point charges and then how you can generalize this to many point charges and finally to a continuous charge distribution!

They just looked similar, like [tex]y^2/x^2[/tex]
No other reason.
I actually did use that for part a, solving for [tex]E_x[/tex], but I've already solved parts a and b :) Sorry if I wasn't clear.
 

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