Student loses Court Case over Plagiarism and Use of AI

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The discussion centers around a recent court ruling involving a student who was punished for using artificial intelligence to complete an assignment, raising questions about plagiarism, ethics, and the implications of AI in academic settings. Participants explore the legal and ethical dimensions of the case, as well as broader issues related to academic integrity and parental involvement in educational disputes.

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  • Some participants note that the school cited plagiarism and ethics rules, claiming the student violated multiple policies, while the parents argued there was no explicit rule against using AI in the student handbook.
  • There is mention of a similar case in Texas where a professor used AI to identify AI-generated reports, resulting in all students failing the course, which was later contested due to the tool's inability to definitively identify AI-generated text.
  • One participant expresses frustration over the perceived cheating involved in the case, suggesting that the students' actions reflect a lack of historical knowledge and integrity.
  • Another participant comments on the parents' decision to pursue a lawsuit, viewing it as a poor lesson for their son regarding accountability for cheating.
  • A participant draws a parallel to a YouTube video about a teacher marking a student's incorrect math answer, highlighting issues of parental involvement in educational disputes.
  • One contributor shares a personal anecdote about students copying text and blaming the university for denying their degrees, indicating a broader trend of cutting corners in academic work.

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Participants express a range of opinions, with some agreeing on the unethical nature of the student's actions and the parents' lawsuit, while others focus on the implications of using AI in academic settings. There is no clear consensus on the appropriateness of the school's actions or the legality of the parents' lawsuit.

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Participants reference specific cases and examples that highlight the complexities of identifying AI-generated content and the ethical considerations surrounding academic integrity. The discussion reflects varying perspectives on the role of AI in education and the responsibilities of students and parents.

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https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...it-punished-student-for-using-ai-court-rules/

A federal court yesterday ruled against parents who sued a Massachusetts school district for punishing their son who used an artificial intelligence tool to complete an assignment.

Dale and Jennifer Harris sued Hingham High School officials and the School Committee and sought a preliminary injunction requiring the school to change their son's grade and expunge the incident from his disciplinary record before he needs to submit college applications. The parents argued that there was no rule against using AI in the student handbook, but school officials said the student violated multiple policies.

Notably, the school cites plagiarism and ethics rules after a teacher used AI to uncover the plagiarism of text generated by a Grammarly AI.

There were some fake book references and other issues with their project. The court didn't challenge the use of AI to identify AI. I suspect a good lawyer could have challenged that asking for proof in how it determined the text was written by AI.

In Texas, there was a case where a college prof used AI to look for AI generated reports in one of his assignments. He flunked all his students for it and jeopardized their graduation. It was later thrown out due to the inability of the tool to positively identify AI generated text.

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...ssor-flunks-students-false-claims-1234736601/

Dr. Jared Mumm, a campus rodeo instructor who also teaches agricultural classes, sent an email on Monday to a group of students informing them that he had submitted grades for their last three essay assignments of the semester. Everyone would be receiving an “X” in the course, Mumm explained, because he had used “Chat GTP” (the OpenAI chatbot is actually called “ChatGPT“) to test whether they’d used the software to write the papers — and the bot claimed to have authored every single one.

“I copy and paste your responses in [ChatGPT] and [it] will tell me if the program generated the content,” he wrote, saying he had tested each paper twice. He offered the class a makeup assignment to avoid the failing grade — which could otherwise, in theory, threaten their graduation status.
 
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jedishrfu said:
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...it-punished-student-for-using-ai-court-rules/



Notably, the school cites plagiarism and ethics rules after a teacher used AI to uncover the plagiarism of text generated by a Grammarly AI.

There were some fake book references and other issues with their project. The court didn't challenge the use of AI to identify AI. I suspect a good lawyer could have challenged that asking for proof in how it determined the text was written by AI.

In Texas, there was a case where a college prof used AI to look for AI generated reports in one of his assignments. He flunked all his students for it and jeopardized their graduation. It was later thrown out due to the inability of the tool to positively identify AI generated text.

https://www.rollingstone.com/cultur...ssor-flunks-students-false-claims-1234736601/
OMG, these guys were cheating on AP U.S. History. All else aside, they are losers.
 
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nsaspook said:
OMG, these guys were cheating on AP U.S. History. All else aside, they are losers.
Sadly, no longer can we assume everyone has had much history before getting into college.
 
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After reading the article and learning more details of what happened, I find it really sad that these parents were willing to pursue a lawsuit over their son's blatant cheating. Great lesson for their son.
 
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That's sad and true. It reminds me of the YouTube video of the math teacher. In it, she marks a simple problem wrong. A student wrote that 2+2 = 22, and she said it was wrong.

The parents demanded a parent-teacher conference and reiterated the same thing. Finally, the principal gets involved and tells the teacher that, sadly, he has to let her go.

The final act is the best part.

 
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That's like in the ballpark of where some students just blatantly copy several pages of text from someone else's work and call it a "quote" and then have the audacity to blame the uni for being gatekeepers and biased and blah blah for denying them their degree (it's oddly specific because that's what happened in our uni).

Even more bizarre is that the parents are suing over this. Great example of cutting corners to scare my students with :devil:
 
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