Studying Swarm Behaviour Using Physical Methods

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the use of physical methods to study swarm behavior, with a focus on various types of swarms such as those of comets, birds, and fish. Participants explore the applicability of physics in understanding these behaviors and the methodologies involved.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about the use of physical methods to study swarm behavior without specifying the type of swarm.
  • Another participant suggests that the relevance of physical methods may depend on the type of swarm, indicating that swarming behavior in species like bugs may not relate to physics as typically understood.
  • A participant mentions the use of Boids to simulate the behavior of flocks of birds or swarms of fish, which follows a simple set of rules.
  • It is proposed that integrating fluid dynamics into simulations of fish or birds could enhance the understanding of swarm behavior, with a reference to a group at the University of Toronto that may have simulated fish.
  • A participant shares a link to a National Geographic article on swarm theory, noting its accessibility and lack of mathematical content.
  • A later reply questions whether researchers have attempted to register emitted sounds from a swarm of birds and relate these to changes in their configuration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the applicability of physical methods to various types of swarms, indicating that the discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing perspectives.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the relevance of physics to different types of swarms are not fully explored, and there is uncertainty regarding the methodologies used in existing research.

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please let me know if physical methods are used in order to study the behaviour of a swarm.
thanks
 
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A swarm of what? For comets, the answer is 'yes'.
If you're referring to bugs, you should probably post this in the Biology section. I believe that swarming behaviour is species-dependent, and has nothing to do with physics in the way that we normally think of.
 
For a flock of birds or a swarm of fish, I think Boids are used to simulate the behaviour, which follows a simple set of rules.
 
you could though...by integrating some fluid dynamics into the simulation of either fish or birds(boids&flocks). I believe a group at the University of toronto simulated fish though I'm not entirely sure if they used real water physics...the lead researcher went to silicon i believe.
 
D H said:
The newest National Geographic has an interesting lay article on swarm theory, available online (free!) at http://www7.nationalgeographic.com/ngm/0707/feature5 . The article is math-free, of course.
Thanks for your help. My problem is if researchers have tried in the case of a swarm of birds to register the emitted sount and to relate it with the changes in the configuration?
regards
 

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