Stupidest Statement by a Presidential Candidate - Ever

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around statements made by presidential candidates, particularly focusing on comments attributed to Mitt Romney regarding the voting behavior of individuals who do not pay income tax. Participants explore the implications of such statements, their perceived arrogance, and the broader context of political rhetoric in elections.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants criticize Romney's assertion that 47% of Americans will vote for Obama regardless of circumstances, questioning the logic and implications of this claim.
  • Others suggest that both Romney and Obama exhibit a condescending attitude towards voters, which may alienate potential supporters.
  • A few participants argue that voter turnout among those who do not pay income tax is historically low, potentially mitigating the impact of Romney's statement.
  • Some express concern over the broader implications of political rhetoric, suggesting that it reflects a lack of understanding of the socioeconomic factors affecting voters.
  • Participants highlight that many individuals who do not pay federal income tax still contribute through other forms of taxation, such as payroll taxes.
  • There is a mention of how political statements can be perceived as manipulative or dismissive of certain voter demographics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, with multiple competing views on the implications of Romney's statements and the overall effectiveness of political messaging. Disagreement exists regarding the interpretation of voter demographics and the motivations behind political rhetoric.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the importance of understanding the socioeconomic context of voters who do not pay income tax, suggesting that assumptions about their motivations may be overly simplistic. There are also references to the emotional and psychological aspects of political campaigning, including cognitive dissonance.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to those studying political communication, voter behavior, and the impact of socioeconomic factors on electoral outcomes.

  • #151
mathwonk said:
SixNein, you are a gentleman and a scholar and it is a pleasure to make your acquaintance.

In particular with your analysis, it seems to be emerging that some of the 47% who collect less social security than they paid in, and may not pay income tax, may in fact not be dependent on government but are in fact subsidizing the government.

this goes toward the falsity of the original statement by Mr. Romney, which relates to its stupidity, if he expected it to be accepted.

The same to you sir.

Again, I think your assessment is correct. In fact, If I'm not mistaken, the CBO graph on page 19 of the link indicates that nearly half of the lowest quartile of earners will pay more then receive. The CBO also stated that

The uncertainty about benefit-to-tax ratios is greatest for workers in the lowest quintile of
lifetime earners. (CBO’s estimates are based on 500 simulations in which most of the key
demographic and economic factors in the analysis vary according to historical patterns.)
However, when the uncertainty range is compared with the median ratio for each quintile
and birth cohort, it is approximately equal for all quintiles.
 
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  • #152
Re: Stupidest Statement by a Presidential Candidate - Ever"I accept the nomination"
 
  • #153
Alfi said:
Re: Stupidest Statement by a Presidential Candidate - Ever


"I accept the nomination"
:biggrin:
 
  • #154
Alfi said:
Re: Stupidest Statement by a Presidential Candidate - Ever"I accept the nomination"

Romney makes windows in the plane even though people tell him, "bad idea".

Romney: "I'm the friggin boss here, SHUT UP!"

Fire breaks

Romney: "QUICK! Open the windows so we can get some oxygen in here!"

Lol

I accept the nomination is a bit silly, but no where near tops "stupidest statement" nor does it get anywhere near the top 10. Bush alone would take up most of the 10, with Romney leading at no.1 and no.2.

The plane comment obviously which I love. And, "I care about the 100% because I believe in God" lol
 

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