Subspace Theorem: Decide if R1 in P2

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The discussion revolves around the application of the subspace theorem to determine whether specific sets of polynomials are subspaces of P2, the vector space of all polynomials of degree at most 2. The sets in question include those defined by specific conditions on the coefficients of the polynomials.

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  • Participants analyze three sets of polynomials, evaluating their closure under vector addition and scalar multiplication as per the subspace theorem. There is uncertainty expressed regarding the interpretation of the conditions for part c, particularly about the degree of the resulting polynomial.

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Some participants agree with the original poster's assessments of parts a and b, while there is a noted concern about the reasoning for part c. Clarifications regarding grammatical implications in the mathematical context are also discussed, indicating an ongoing exploration of the definitions and conditions involved.

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The original poster expresses uncertainty about their interpretation of part c, suggesting a potential misunderstanding or misapplication of the subspace theorem in that context.

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Use the subspace Theorem to decide if the following are subspaces of P2, the vector space of all polynomials of degree at most 2.

a) R1 = {ao + a1x +a2x^2 | ao = 0}
b) R1 = {ao + a1x +a2x^2 | a1 = 1}
c) R1 = { p E P2 | p has exactly degree 2}

(for part c 'E' is 'element of')

Solutions:

a) Is a subspace, closed under vector addition and scalar multiplication

b) Isn't a subspace, vector addition doesn't hold take (a,1,c) + (d,1,e) = (a+d,2,c+e)
the value for a1 is 1 so its not a subspace.

c) Isn't a subspace, take -x^2 and x^2 under addition they equal 0 and aren't degree 2.

I'm unsure of part c whether I've just interpreted it wrongly or just made a mistake but for some reason i just doesn't feel right..

any help would be appreciated as usual, thanks :)
 
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forty said:
Use the subspace Theorem to decide if the following are subspaces of P2, the vector space of all polynomials of degree at most 2.

a) R1 = {ao + a1x +a2x^2 | ao = 0}
b) R1 = {ao + a1x +a2x^2 | a1 = 1}
c) R1 = { p E P2 | p has exactly degree 2}

(for part c 'E' is 'element of')

Solutions:

a) Is a subspace, closed under vector addition and scalar multiplication

b) Isn't a subspace, vector addition doesn't hold take (a,1,c) + (d,1,e) = (a+d,2,c+e)
the value for a1 is 1 so its not a subspace.

c) Isn't a subspace, take -x^2 and x^2 under addition they equal 0 and aren't degree 2.
Point of grammar, not mathematics: "and aren't degree 2" implies that -x^2 and x^2 are not of degree 2 which is, of course, not true. You should have said "which isn't degree 2" making it clear that it is their sum, the 0 polynomial, which is not of degree 2.

I'm unsure of part c whether I've just interpreted it wrongly or just made a mistake but for some reason i just doesn't feel right..

any help would be appreciated as usual, thanks :)
 
Makes sense, will keep it in mind for future reference so i don't get arrested for bad grammar ;)

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