Success Through Comprehensive Study of Physics

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the feasibility and implications of studying all areas of physics versus specializing in a specific field. Participants explore the balance between broad knowledge and deep expertise, considering the impact on academic and research opportunities.

Discussion Character

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  • Conceptual clarification
  • Meta-discussion

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that studying every solved problem in physics could provide a broad understanding of the field, though it may not lead to specialization.
  • Others argue that specialization is necessary for conducting research on unsolved problems and securing academic positions, asserting that being a generalist may lead to mediocrity.
  • A participant expresses the view that focusing on unsolved problems is more valuable than repeatedly solving known problems, emphasizing the importance of innovation in learning.
  • Concerns are raised about the practicality of pursuing a broad study approach, with some suggesting it may lead to financial instability and limited career prospects.
  • Some participants reference the idea that a broad knowledge base could potentially allow for unique contributions to unsolved problems, though this is seen as challenging without connections and current knowledge.
  • There is a mention of the notion that natural ability may play a significant role in becoming a successful mathematician or physicist, with some attributing success to genetic factors.
  • Several participants express frustration with the discussion, labeling it as ridiculous and questioning the viability of the proposed approach to learning physics.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally disagree on the value of studying everything versus specializing, with multiple competing views on the implications for academic and research success. The discussion remains unresolved, with no consensus on the best approach to studying physics.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight the limitations of time and the human capacity for learning, suggesting that one cannot feasibly learn everything in depth. There are also references to the challenges faced by students who struggle with traditional learning methods.

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pivoxa15 said:
So you think maths is in your genes? Imagine what you would achieve had you tried harder. In fact Ian Stewart said he didn't try that hard either when he was a student and also admited that he had talent. Why don't you pursue pure maths?

I'm not trying hard either and that's with every subject. I just assume that's above average intelligence. That's all.

I don't think there is a math gene specifically.
 
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  • #32
pivoxa15 said:
So you think maths is in your genes? Imagine what you would achieve had you tried harder. In fact Ian Stewart said he didn't try that hard either when he was a student and also admited that he had talent. Why don't you pursue pure maths?
I certainly think there is such a thing as a natural ability.

Loads of people say they're rubbish at maths and can't grasp it.

I believe them -- eg. my gf is brilliant in what she does (English), yet admits she has no ability for maths.

However, in the genes? That's very hard to say -- I was the first in my close family (bloodline, say) to pursue my education to university, so I can't tell if any of my family were naturally good at maths...

And, "had you tried harder". Well, I like to think of myself as quite young still :wink: And, pure maths? This goes back to the same old argument of what is pure maths... some of the thing's I do, regarding "functional analysis" could be described as pure. However, I prefer to have some application at the end of it. Though this just throws up the question of the fluidity between pure and applied again :biggrin:

<e2a: Reading this post and the one I quoted a few posts earlier, they sound quite arrogant. I don't mean them to :smile:. I think the talk of nature of nurture is an interesting one.>
 
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