Suggest me some economic concepts to learn

In summary, the conversation suggests learning various economic concepts such as factors of production, law of supply and demand, elasticity, costs and revenue, marginal profit, profit maximization model, opportunity cost, consumer and producer surplus, production possibilities, labor theory of value, Soviet planning and models of organization. The conversation also recommends studying different economic models, books, and topics such as microeconomics, macroeconomics, econometrics, cooperatives vs corporations, and public choice theory. Lastly, it suggests considering the effects of negative externalities, monopoly and competition, moral hazard, and value in use and trade.
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Cinitiator
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Please suggest me some economic concepts to learn - the more important, the better. I'm self-teaching economics, and want to find more concepts to learn.Here are some of the ones I know as of now (might edit it as I learn more):

Factors of production and final product (inputs and outputs)
The law of supply and demand
Elasticity of supply
Elasticity of demand
Marginal cost
Average total cost
Marginal revenue
Marginal profit
Profit MC=MR maximization model
Total cost
Total revenue
Total profit
Total cost & total revenue based profit-maximization model
Variable costs
Fixed costs
Marginal utility
Total utility
Production possibility frontier
Opportunity cost
Consumer surplus
Producer surplus
Total product
Average product
Marginal product
Capital accumulation
Leontief input-output model
Cobb-Douglas production function
Neoclassical (Solow) growth model
Capital stock
Technological innovation
Hyperinflation
Stagflation
Division of labor
Capital intensity
Indifference curves
Marginal rate of substitution
Budget constraint
Laffer Curve
Velocity of money
Backward Bending Labor Supply Curve
Monetary policy
Extensive growth
Intensive growth
Capital depreciation

Keynesian:
Aggregate supply and demand
Short run aggregate supply
Long run aggregate supply
Keynesian cross
Consumption function
Marginal propensity to consume
Marginal propensity to save
Circular flow of income model
Interest rates and loanable funds model
Interest rates & consumption relationships
Multiplier effect
Keynesian multiplier
Components of aggregate demand (consumption, government spending, investment, net exports...)
Potential output
Fiscal policy

Marxian:
Surplus value
Money diagrams (M-C-M', C-M-C, etc)
Constant capital
Variable capital
Rate of exploitation
Socially necessary labor time
Labor theory of value
Living labor
Dead labor
Productive labor
Unproductive labor
Falling rate of profit
Super profit based socially necessary labor time shifts due to capitalistic competition
Overproduction
Crisis due to over-accumulation of capital
Constant capital, variable capital and surplus value relationship
Production for use and production for exchange
Labor power
Labor as a commodity

Other
Detailed Soviet planning structure
Material balance planning
Physical magnitude accounting and its implications
Yugoslavian market socialism
Soviet growth strategies, investment types and growth rates, as well as causes of stagnation
Soviet remuneration methods
Socialistic competition and its application by the Soviets
Organization models (standard (entirely capitalist-owned, all the surplus value goes to the capitalist), corporations, worker cooperatives)
 
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Only thing I suggest is looking at different models of organisation e.g. cooperatives vs corporates etc.
 
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Ryan_m_b said:
Only thing I suggest is looking at different models of organisation e.g. cooperatives vs corporates etc.

I'm familiar with those already. Going to add them to my list.
 
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Here it is easier

Buy a Microeconomics book, and go through it.

Buy a Macro book, and go through it.

Buy a econometrics book, and go through it
 
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Pyrrhus said:
Here it is easier

Buy a Microeconomics book, and go through it.

Buy a Macro book, and go through it.

Buy a econometrics book, and go through it

I've done that, except with free and open-source online books, as well as free and open-source online lectures, and various articles on the topic. I'm simply asking people to suggest some important concept that I could've missed, so that I could learn them if I don't know them already.
 
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@OP, you might interview owners of small businesses that have to "roll with the punches" as things change. Line of credit declining? Shipment options getting more expensive? Competitors moving in on your business? There are millions of variables, and if you are the owner of a small business, you have to cope with them. Learn economics "on the ground" if you want to understand economics. That's just my take on things, and I live in the most rural state in the country, so you may discount it if you wish.
 
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just read Adam Smith, Hayek, & Public Choice theory
 
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The question is.. Do you want to learn economics or learn about economics?

I doubt that you reading those books got everything unless you have a good mathematical background.
 
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mathematics in economics beyond some basic manipulation of accounting entities is just analogy, you can safely skip most all of it

there is no math worth speaking of in Adam Smith or Hayek. Buchanan's Calculus of Consent is rooted in game theory, but its not necessary for understanding the book
 
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Here's one more for your list, a key to understanding our (warming) world: negative externalities.
 
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SocialThought said:
Here's one more for your list, a key to understanding our (warming) world: negative externalities.

true, although public choice does provide the key to understanding policy responses
 
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Pyrrhus said:
The question is.. Do you want to learn economics or learn about economics?

I doubt that you reading those books got everything unless you have a good mathematical background.

I know and understand all the mathematical modeling behind the economic works I had read, with a few exceptions being some newly-published economic papers which use discrete mathematics rather than calculus for dynamic economic modeling (I understand it now, though, after reading up on it).
 
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BWV said:
just read Adam Smith, Hayek, & Public Choice theory

I've read some Hayek, and his works (along with Mises) on the so-called economic calculation problem. The lack of concrete evidence and reasoning as well as the dogma in his works was astonishing, so I would rather not waste my time on learning Austrian economics.
 
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Cinitiator said:
I've read some Hayek, and his works (along with Mises) on the so-called economic calculation problem. The lack of concrete evidence and reasoning as well as the dogma in his works was astonishing, so I would rather not waste my time on learning Austrian economics.

The fact that you can dismiss this very serious argument that has been at the center of modern economics (and has been basically settled in Hayek's favor) so quickly out of hand shows that you are probably wasting your time studying the topic, perhaps you should try physics or accounting
 
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Monopoly, Oligopoly, and Monopolistic competition.
 
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Adan Smith:
-Value in use
-Value in trade
Carl Menger:
-first order goods and higher order goods
 
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BWV said:
The fact that you can dismiss this very serious argument that has been at the center of modern economics (and has been basically settled in Hayek's favor) so quickly out of hand shows that you are probably wasting your time studying the topic, perhaps you should try physics or accounting

Yes, I can dismiss arguments which lack definition, coherence and detail. This argument hasn't settled in Hayek's favor at all - a new synthesis had been created out of the economic calculation problem, which is the Lange Model, and which puts an end to the economic calculation debate.

Why are you implying that I dismissed it quickly and out of hand? It took me a long year of reading, studying, statistic searching and analyzing to dismiss this absolutely ridiculous argument, and to find a proposed solution to it.
 
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BWV said:
mathematics in economics beyond some basic manipulation of accounting entities is just analogy, you can safely skip most all of it

there is no math worth speaking of in Adam Smith or Hayek. Buchanan's Calculus of Consent is rooted in game theory, but its not necessary for understanding the book

This is absolutely wrong - mathematics is necessary to understand the extent and magnitude of Pareto inefficiency of the capitalistic system - its irrational production quotas, its predisposition to perpetual crisis, its irrational income distribution and its undermining of potential growth rates, which could be far higher if a rational system would be put in place. Neoclassical economics is based on a set of models which allow for such analysis to be made.
 
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Cinitiator said:
Yes, I can dismiss arguments which lack definition, coherence and detail. This argument hasn't settled in Hayek's favor at all - a new synthesis had been created out of the economic calculation problem, which is the Lange Model, and which puts an end to the economic calculation debate.

Why are you implying that I dismissed it quickly and out of hand? It took me a long year of reading, studying, statistic searching and analyzing to dismiss this absolutely ridiculous argument, and to find a proposed solution to it.

The Lange Model still uses prices but it awkwardly tries to infer it from surplus/shortage, and creates the potential for bureaucratic abuse. What is to stop the bureaucrat from keeping prices too high to please producers or two low too please consumers? Anyway, there are more things to learn from Austrian economics then just this problem. For instance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_Minsky#Understanding_Minsky.27s_financial_instability_hypothesis
 
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John Creighto said:
The Lange Model still uses prices but it awkwardly tries to infer it from surplus/shortage, and creates the potential for bureaucratic abuse. What is to stop the bureaucrat from keeping prices too high to please producers or two low too please consumers? Anyway, there are more things to learn from Austrian economics then just this problem. For instance:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyman_Minsky#Understanding_Minsky.27s_financial_instability_hypothesis

"but it awkwardly tries to infer it from surplus/shortage"

Not more awkwardly than a capitalistic market. The Lange Model can be adapted to have a decentralized price system on each distribution center, which would adjust to supply and demand just like in capitalism, without a need to do so centrally (which could end badly due to information losses as the information moves up the hierarchy).

"What is to stop the bureaucrat from keeping prices too high to please producers or two low too please consumers?"

That's like saying "What's to stop the bureaucrat from covering the transport in feces to please the public and make it laugh and not those who use this transport?". The prices would be decentrally set by each enterprise and distribution center. All the profits would be sent to the state for re-investment - such enormous investment would cause enormous economic growth. There won't be any 'producers' to benefit, as the state would be the producer.

One should always remember that the state currently carried out very vital functions, and is responsible for education, transportations and various vital public services in most developed countries. As long as the state isn't very centralized, democratic, and is forced to release its information, then there shouldn't be a problem. There should always be a freedom of information, assembly, opinion, mass media, and so on, to keep the state in check.
 
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Cinitiator said:
This is absolutely wrong - mathematics is necessary to understand the extent and magnitude of Pareto inefficiency of the capitalistic system - its irrational production quotas, its predisposition to perpetual crisis, its irrational income distribution and its undermining of potential growth rates, which could be far higher if a rational system would be put in place. Neoclassical economics is based on a set of models which allow for such analysis to be made.

The neoclassical economics which you rail against has a very elegant mathematical proof of the Pareto efficency of free markets - no one will trade unless they gain from the transaction therefore all trades improve the welfare of both participants therefore left to their own devices markets will optimally allocate resources. Of course the model is simply, like all economic models, a tautology based upon debatable assumptions.

the mathematics in economics is a metaphor to those who understand the issues and a fetish to those who don't because the basic variables - supply, demand etc. are immeasurable abstractions. the problems of economic modeling include but go beyond those of chaotic systems such as trying to capture all relevant variables and sensitivity to initial conditions - they also reflect the fact that the basic casual relationships are unknown and ultimately human behavior is not subject to mathematical laws. Models are useful tools for focusing on certain problems, but should not be confused with reality, nor can the be used reliably for engineering - no bridge ever failed because too many people tried to game the design, but of course this is perpetual problem with macroeconomic policy.
 
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1. Supply and Demand
2. Trade Offs

Learn those two things and the rest is structure and relationships of markets and institutions.
 
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Cinitiator said:
Yes, I can dismiss arguments which lack definition, coherence and detail. This argument hasn't settled in Hayek's favor at all - a new synthesis had been created out of the economic calculation problem, which is the Lange Model, and which puts an end to the economic calculation debate.

Why are you implying that I dismissed it quickly and out of hand? It took me a long year of reading, studying, statistic searching and analyzing to dismiss this absolutely ridiculous argument, and to find a proposed solution to it.

who has heard of the Lange model? Its nearly 50 years old and I have never seen anyone mention it. I checked and there are all of six papers on SSRN.com that refer to it. Just because you found it a couple of days ago on Google does not make it the "end of the economic calculation debate".
 
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Cinitiator said:
"but it awkwardly tries to infer it from surplus/shortage"

Not more awkwardly than a capitalistic market. The Lange Model can be adapted to have a decentralized price system on each distribution center, which would adjust to supply and demand just like in capitalism, without a need to do so centrally (which could end badly due to information losses as the information moves up the hierarchy).
You mean make the system even more like capitalism?
"What is to stop the bureaucrat from keeping prices too high to please producers or two low too please consumers?"

That's like saying "What's to stop the bureaucrat from covering the transport in feces to please the public and make it laugh and not those who use this transport?". The prices would be decentrally set by each enterprise and distribution center.
Why?

All the profits would be sent to the state for re-investment - such enormous investment would cause enormous economic growth. There won't be any 'producers' to benefit, as the state would be the producer.
Aren't profits in a capitalist system reinvested?
One should always remember that the state currently carried out very vital functions, and is responsible for education, transportations and various vital public services in most developed countries.
And about state education how well do you think that is working? As for transportation, how much do you think bureaucrats are influenced buy business when awarding contracts? Do you think the roads are over maintained or under maintained and why?

As long as the state isn't very centralized, democratic, and is forced to release its information, then there shouldn't be a problem. There should always be a freedom of information, assembly, opinion, mass media, and so on, to keep the state in check.

There was a move to democratize business once and in some European countries (Yugoslavia perhaps) and I think it was taken to such a state as the janitor in an engineering company had as much a say in things as the engineers. This is second hand though from someone who use to live in that area.
 
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The Law of Diminishing Returns.
The Law of Demand.
The Law of Marginal Utility.
 
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John Creighto said:
You mean make the system even more like capitalism?

Why?Aren't profits in a capitalist system reinvested?

And about state education how well do you think that is working? As for transportation, how much do you think bureaucrats are influenced buy business when awarding contracts? Do you think the roads are over maintained or under maintained and why?
There was a move to democratize business once and in some European countries (Yugoslavia perhaps) and I think it was taken to such a state as the janitor in an engineering company had as much a say in things as the engineers. This is second hand though from someone who use to live in that area.

"You mean make the system even more like capitalism?" - No, I mean make it have a decentralized price system which would set a market clearing price on the lowest level, which would result in no shortages and surpluses being present.

"Aren't profits in a capitalist system reinvested?" - Only a part, and only with a goal of gaining more profit.

"There was a move to democratize business once and in some European countries (Yugoslavia perhaps) and I think it was taken to such a state as the janitor in an engineering company had as much a say in things as the engineers. This is second hand though from someone who use to live in that area." - I'm not talking about democratizing business - this is irrelevant - obviously those who aren't competent shouldn't take part in the microeconomic business decisions. I'm talking about civil liberties, which would allow the whole system pattern to be kept in check by the general population."And about state education how well do you think that is working? As for transportation, how much do you think bureaucrats are influenced buy business when awarding contracts? Do you think the roads are over maintained or under maintained and why?" - It's working very well. The private sector would be unable to educate such enormous masses of the people, and only a few would end up getting education, even if it would be of a slightly higher quality.

"Why?" - To attain a market equilibrium, and therefore clear the markets.
 
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As an aside I hope that some moderator will be kind enough to separate posts (such as this one) about, the Lange model, from this thread, into a separate thread. Now to address the points:
Cinitiator said:
"You mean make the system even more like capitalism?" - No, I mean make it have a decentralized price system which would set a market clearing price on the lowest level, which would result in no shortages and surpluses being present.
Under perfect competition isn’t this, what is supposed to happen? Doesn’t government intervention reduce competition?
"Aren't profits in a capitalist system reinvested?" - Only a part, and only with a goal of gaining more profit.
Aren’t the areas which have the greatest return on investment (where there are the greatest profits) the areas where the greatest investment is needed?

"There was a move to democratize business once and in some European countries (Yugoslavia perhaps) and I think it was taken to such a state as the janitor in an engineering company had as much a say in things as the engineers. This is second hand though from someone who use to live in that area." - I'm not talking about democratizing business - this is irrelevant - obviously those who aren't competent shouldn't take part in the microeconomic business decisions. I'm talking about civil liberties, which would allow the whole system pattern to be kept in check by the general population.

Who decides who is competent enough to make decisions about the business of a company and where does the divine wisdom of this person (the sorting hat), who decides who is and who is not worthy of participating in a business/engineering decision, derive their wisdom and authority from?

"And about state education how well do you think that is working? As for transportation, how much do you think bureaucrats are influenced buy business when awarding contracts? Do you think the roads are over maintained or under maintained and why?" - It's working very well. The private sector would be unable to educate such enormous masses of the people, and only a few would end up getting education, even if it would be of a slightly higher quality.

Given that we are supposed to learn to read write and do basic math in their first six years of education why are illiteracy rates so high? If someone knows how to read why can’t they learn everything else themselves, though books? Aren’t people who can self-educate superior learners to people who need to be trained? What is to stop parents from educating their own kids if they lack money for schooling say for high school?

Now the big question -- do we need as many people educated with post secondary degrees as we have today? There are so many degrees/programs where the amount of people graduating from the degree significantly exceeds the demand at current wage levels, but these wage levels are needed to pay for the degree.

In one of Ann Rand’s Essays contained in “Capitalism the Unknown Ideal” she compares our current system to guild socialism. Guild socialism is a system where through training (education) you are able to improve you situation but only marginally so. It promotes mediocrity because there is an interest in the guild (or profession/union/trade as we may call it today,) to closely follow past procedures.

But such standardization inhibits innovation. Unfortunately, for innovation to be successful; it requires people to often know well, more than just a small part of the solution; and even with such excellence: innovation is still a very risky endeavor. However, without innovation our economy and hence our wellbeing does not progress. Our education system does not aim to produce excellence it aims to leave no one behind.

The more engineers we train, the more administrative their roles become. The more administrative their roles become the more marginal/incremental becomes our progress. The best approach to innovation is not achieved by learning to apply a narrow set of skills. To lean both in great depth and with great breadth requires strategies to absorb and integrate significant amount of knowledge. These strategies will likely be to a degree unique to each individual.

Government mandates, are not likely to both help people discover the best strategies to them; and to help them utilize these strategies to their full potential. Therefore, to help find, the methods to best aid students in achieving their full potential; it is best to have options (competition) between schools, so that we can discover which methods are the most effective. Not only do we not know which people will be the future geniuses; but we also don’t know which methods of schooling is most likely to produce the most future geniuses. Education is an invention in and of it’s self and without multiple people pursing the best means to educate people we will not achieve the best results.
"Why?" - To attain a market equilibrium, and therefore clear the markets.
That’s your goal but you have not justified to me why bureaucratic mandate is the best way to achieve this goal. Not all problems can be solved through legislation.
 
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Comparative Advantage
 
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You have a lot but are missing many important concepts from game theory and social choice theory, both of which are covered in microeconomics:
- Condorcet's Paradox (Paradox of voting)
- Arrow's Impossibility Problem
- Paradox of Value
- Action axiom
- Nash equilibrium
- Prisoner's dilemma
- Zero-sum game

You're also missing monetarism and supply-side economics, both of which are covered in macroeconomics:
- Money Supply
- Federal funds rate
- Discount rate
- Interest rate/Cost of liquidity
- Required reserve ratio
- Excess reserves
- Money Demand-Supply Equilibria
- Bonds and bond yield
- Open market operations
- Federal Reserve System
- Currency in circulation
- Bank deposits
- Bank reserves
- Equation of exchange
- Velocity of money
- Milton Friedman
- Phillips Curve
- Currency exchange
- Currency equilibria
- Demand and supply of foreign currency
- Dollar/Euro market
- Dollar/Pound sterling market
- Dollar/Yen market
- Dollar/Yuan market
- Global weighted currency
- Gold standard
- Foreign exchange deficit
- Foreign exchange surplus
- Relationship between foreign exchange deficit/surplus and inflation/unemployment.

BiP
 
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DrClapeyron said:
1. Supply and Demand
2. Trade Offs

Learn those two things and the rest is structure and relationships of markets and institutions.

lol, well in that case, supply / demand includes "trade offs".
 

1. What are the basic economic principles I should learn?

The basic economic principles that everyone should understand include supply and demand, opportunity cost, inflation, and the role of government in the economy.

2. What is the difference between microeconomics and macroeconomics?

Microeconomics focuses on individual economic units such as households and businesses, while macroeconomics examines the economy as a whole, including factors like inflation, unemployment, and economic growth.

3. What is the concept of scarcity in economics?

Scarcity refers to the limited availability of resources and the unlimited wants and needs of individuals and societies. This concept is a fundamental driver of economic decision-making.

4. How do taxes and government spending affect the economy?

Taxes and government spending are important tools for the government to influence the economy. Taxes can be used to raise revenue and influence consumer behavior, while government spending can stimulate economic growth and address social issues.

5. Can you recommend any books or resources for learning about economic concepts?

There are many great books and resources available for learning about economics. Some popular options include "Economics in One Lesson" by Henry Hazlitt, "Freakonomics" by Steven Levitt and Stephen Dubner, and "The Wealth of Nations" by Adam Smith. Online resources such as Khan Academy and Investopedia also offer comprehensive lessons on economic concepts.

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