Suggestions to help me buy a smartphone

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The discussion revolves around suggestions for purchasing a smartphone, particularly for someone who has been out of the smartphone market for a while. The focus includes budget considerations, essential features for basic usage, and compatibility issues, with an emphasis on user-friendly options.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a desire for a smartphone primarily for WhatsApp, banking, and ticketing, with a budget of 150€.
  • Another participant suggests choosing a phone with strong custom ROM support to avoid unwanted software and enhance user experience.
  • A link to a CNN article is provided as a resource for current smartphone options.
  • Several participants discuss the importance of checking with their phone carrier for available phones within budget.
  • Concerns are raised about frequency compatibility between European and US smartphones, with a participant seeking clarification on whether modern smartphones still face these issues.
  • Recommendations include the Moto G5 for its affordability and features, and Google Project Fi for cost-effective service with specific phone models.
  • Some participants advocate for Xiaomi as a good quality-to-price option in the current market.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants present multiple competing views on smartphone recommendations, budget constraints, and compatibility issues. There is no consensus on a single best option or approach.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various smartphone models and services, but there are unresolved questions regarding compatibility with different network frequencies and the implications of using custom ROMs.

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This discussion may be useful for individuals looking to purchase a budget-friendly smartphone, especially those who have limited experience with modern devices or are concerned about compatibility issues while traveling.

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I had a smartphones last year, then it broke and I used to get by with an old "phone" (it was actually one of the first smartphones), but I'm using it just for calls/texts and nothing else.

I really got used to this "old" style: no distractions and other stuff I always hated about smartphones. But I have to change it now :cry:

Since I've been so out of the business for quite a bit I have no idea what to buy. I'll be using it mostly for:
- whatsapp
- physicsforum (:wink:)
- bank account
- airplane/train tickes

I'd like to spend as less as possible (150€ would be my threshold, but in extremely rare case I can change my mind).

I know that every smartphones can do the above stuff, so I have no clue about how I should pick one. Do you have any suggestions ?

Thanks
Ric

EDIT: Please correct the 's' in the title <Moderator's note: fixed>
 
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Well, based on my recent experiences I would pick one which has a strong support in the custom ROM community and it is not too hard to replace the annoying factory gizmo with some decent firmware.

Originally I had an old Samsung S4 mini (from 2013). When the original ROM (some Android 4.x) reached its limit I tried some other phones, but every piece came with a ton of unwanted app, hard-to-erase registration, ownership limits, high price and so on. So at the end I've just grabbed an Android 7.x custom ROM and fed it into my old S4 and now I'm happy and free. I think I'll keep it for some more years, at least as long as I can get spare battery for it.
 
dRic2 said:
I know that every smartphones can do the above stuff, so I have no clue about how I should pick one. Do you have any suggestions ?
This link to CNN may be helpful in seeing what is available now:

https://www.cnn.com/ampstories/tech/these-are-the-best-new-smartphones-you-can-buy

Are you happy with your current phone carrier? Which one is it? You can usually go to your online account with your carrier and see what phones are available in different price ranges. :smile:
 
berkeman said:
You can usually go to your online account with your carrier and see what phones are available in different price ranges.
For example, I have Verizon as my carrier currently, so when I sign into my account, I can click through Shop, Smartphones, and Sort by: Price Low-High to get a long list of phones starting with these:

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berkeman said:
Those are some quite expensive smartphones :wideeyed::wideeyed:

berkeman said:
Are you happy with your current phone carrier? Which one is it?
Recently changed. I'm quite happy but I need to buy the phone separately.

Rive said:
Originally I had an old Samsung S4 mini (from 2013).
I had a samsung S 5 or 6 years ago and I didn't like it very much... Probably because of the horrible OS, as you said.
 
Hi I'm back. I have one question that is killing me... I live in UE but I will be in US for a few weeks. I recently discovered that smartphones are build to work only with some specific frequencies and those frequencies are different in US from those used in UE. I thought this was an old problem... are modern smartphones still affected by this problem ? All the articles I found are pretty old (2011 or so).
 
dRic2 said:
Hi I'm back. I have one question that is killing me... I live in UE but I will be in US for a few weeks. I recently discovered that smartphones are build to work only with some specific frequencies and those frequencies are different in US from those used in UE. I thought this was an old problem... are modern smartphones still affected by this problem ? All the articles I found are pretty old (2011 or so).
GSM (originally Groupe Spécial Mobile now Global System for Mobile) phones will work in Europe and in USA. US-standard 4G LTE-only phones are incompatible with many European LTE 4G networks, and in some European countries, 4G LTE isn't yet deployed. I suggest you do some searching for GSM phones on ebay, and especially if you consider a used phone, look for one with a replaceable battery.

GSM is explained briefly here: howstuffworks GSM question and answer, and here's a cnet article that discusses some 4G LTE international incompatibilities, and an older (2011) GSMA WI predictive report on related matters is discussed here.
 
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You can find the moto g5 for under 150 euros (the g6 is the current latest, which is slightly more expensive). It can do everything you listed, has a replaceable battery, decent photo camera, and enough space for a regular user (you can also add memory if needed).
 
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I recommend taking a look at Google Project Fi. To save money, go on Ebay and buy either a Nexus 5x or Nexus 6 phone (new) for it. The monthly cost is much less than other services, coverage is decent, the phones are superb, there are no "ad" apps added, all the Google apps just work off the bat, and they have great cameras. The phone has to be Google Fi approved because they have a special SIM card that uses the signals from multiple vendors. I am using a Nexus 6 (gorgeous camera! but it's big--also good for reading Kindle books on) and my husband uses a Nexus 5X (small, light, very good camera also).

There are lots of fun apps you can get that use the phone's sensors, like light meters, sound meters, etc.
 
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Xiaomi should be the best in terms of quality/price nowadays.
 
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ZeGato said:
Xiaomi should be the best in terms of quality/price nowadays.
I bought it yesterday. Cheap but very good so far. Thanks anyway to everyone for the help
 
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dRic2 said:
I had a smartphones last year, then it broke and I used to get by with an old "phone" (it was actually one of the first smartphones), but I'm using it just for calls/texts and nothing else.

I really got used to this "old" style: no distractions and other stuff I always hated about smartphones. But I have to change it now :cry:

Since I've been so out of the business for quite a bit I have no idea what to buy. I'll be using it mostly for:
- whatsapp
- physicsforum (:wink:)
- bank account
- airplane/train tickes

I'd like to spend as less as possible (150€ would be my threshold, but in extremely rare case I can change my mind).

I know that every smartphones can do the above stuff, so I have no clue about how I should pick one. Do you have any suggestions ?

Thanks
Ric

EDIT: Please correct the 's' in the title <Moderator's note: fixed>

Android phones are for me a good choice since it's a lot user friendly compared to iphones. And since you have been a caveman for quite some time now, you can easily adjust to the basics of using it.
 

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