Graphing Calculators vs. Smartphones

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the comparison between graphing calculators and smartphones for mathematical tasks, focusing on their respective functionalities, advantages, and limitations in educational settings and personal use.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that graphing calculators are specialized tools designed for mathematical tasks, excelling in complex calculations and graphing.
  • Others argue that smartphones are generally more powerful than graphing calculators and can run various math applications, providing versatility and access to online resources.
  • One participant notes that graphing calculators are often permitted in standardized tests, while smartphones typically are not, which could influence the choice depending on the user's needs.
  • Some contributors mention the long battery life and durability of graphing calculators as advantages over smartphones, which can be seen as distractions due to their multifunctionality.
  • There are claims that certain scientific calculators can be quicker and easier to use for routine functions compared to smartphone apps, especially in exam settings.
  • Concerns about the cost of graphing calculators being high relative to their functionality are raised, with suggestions to consider budget options.
  • Participants express differing opinions on whether the only advantage of graphing calculators is their acceptance in exams, questioning the relevance of technology over time.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus, as there are multiple competing views regarding the advantages and disadvantages of graphing calculators versus smartphones, particularly in terms of functionality, usability, and educational acceptance.

Contextual Notes

Some participants highlight limitations such as the potential for distractions with smartphones, the varying acceptance of devices in educational settings, and the subjective nature of preferences for device usability.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be of interest to students, educators, and professionals considering the best tools for mathematical tasks, particularly in academic contexts.

mech-eng
Messages
826
Reaction score
13
I was wondering about to buy a graphing/scientific calculator but I have some hesitations. Should I really buy one to make math study better or would buying a smartphone be a better choice? I have an win 8.1 smartphone with 512 mb ram and 4.5-inch screen. Would it be a better choice to buy a math application to use with it? When I update my phone in the future, graphing and calculation power will be most important criteria for choice.

I was also wondering that the graphing/scientific calculators are still being sold even though there are lots of very advanced smartphones which have up to 4 GB ram and multicore processing unit (I do not know if they can be classified as CPU and I do not know if they have a GPU or something like that) Which one would be stronger and faster for complex calculations and graphings- smartphones or graphing calculators? I am not an experienced person on this topic.

Graphing calculators and smartphones are both powerful devices used for various purposes, including mathematics and education. Here's a comparison of the two:

Graphing Calculators:

  1. Specialized Tools: Graphing calculators are designed specifically for mathematical and scientific tasks, making them highly specialized devices for students and professionals in these fields.
  2. Functionality: They excel at performing complex mathematical operations, graphing equations, and solving equations. They are particularly useful for calculus, trigonometry, and statistics.
  3. Long Battery Life: Graphing calculators often have a long battery life, allowing students to use them throughout the school day or even during exams.
  4. Approved for Exams: Many standardized tests and exams, such as the SAT and AP exams, permit the use of specific models of graphing calculators.
  5. Durability: Graphing calculators are designed to withstand the rigors of a student's backpack, making them durable for academic use.
  6. Limited Connectivity: They typically lack internet access or smartphone-like features, which can help reduce distractions during classes and exams.
Smartphones:

  1. Versatile Devices: Smartphones are multi-purpose devices that serve a wide range of functions, from communication and web browsing to productivity and entertainment.
  2. Math Apps: Smartphones can run a variety of math-related apps, including graphing calculators, equation solvers, and educational tools. These apps often provide interactive and visually rich experiences.
  3. Internet Access: Smartphones provide access to a vast amount of information online, making them excellent for research and learning beyond basic calculations.
  4. Portability: Smartphones are compact and lightweight, fitting easily into a pocket, which makes them more convenient to carry around.
  5. Regular Updates: They receive regular software updates, improving functionality and security. Math apps can also be frequently updated.
  6. Connectivity: Smartphones offer connectivity to the internet and other devices, enabling data sharing and collaboration.
Considerations:

  • Cost: Graphing calculators can be expensive, while smartphones may already be owned for other purposes.
  • Acceptance in Education: Graphing calculators are widely accepted in educational settings. However, some educators allow smartphone apps with restrictions.
  • Distractions: Smartphones can be distracting in educational settings due to their non-academic features.
  • Screen Size: Graphing calculators often have larger screens better suited for graphing and displaying equations.
The choice between a graphing calculator and a smartphone for mathematics largely depends on individual needs, budget, and the specific requirements of academic or professional tasks. In many cases, students and professionals use both devices to complement each other.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Computer science news on Phys.org
It's been awhile for me, but there are certain tests (SAT for example) where I think some models of graphing calculator are permitted. I doubt you could have a phone available on Any test. Something to think about
 
Given your history and struggles, I think you'd be happiest with a single-purpose device like a calculator.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: CalcNerd
I think smartphones are, in general, by a large margin more powerful than graphics calculator.
Here's a way to setup a TI 89 emulation on smartphones: https://www.lifehack.org/articles/technology/use-android-89-graphing-calculator.html.
The downside is that they aren't as allowed as graphics calculators in university exams. So it depends on your use. If it's just for you, at home and everywhere you want to do some calculations, I'd go for a smartphone setup.

If and only if the usage is university exams, I'd go with a graphics calculator unless the professor agrees that you use a smartphone.

Smartphones have many math programs to plot and do calculations. Maxima CAS has been ported to Android for instance.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: mech-eng
fluidistic said:
I think smartphones are, in general, by a large margin more powerful than graphics calculator.
Here's a way to setup a TI 89 emulation on smartphones: https://www.lifehack.org/articles/technology/use-android-89-graphing-calculator.html.
The downside is that they aren't as allowed as graphics calculators in university exams. So it depends on your use. If it's just for you, at home and everywhere you want to do some calculations, I'd go for a smartphone setup.

If and only if the usage is university exams, I'd go with a graphics calculator unless the professor agrees that you use a smartphone.

Smartphones have many math programs to plot and do calculations. Maxima CAS has been ported to Android for instance.

So is the only superiority of calculators versus smartphones is that they are allowed in the exams? Might this remark imply that when time pass, some technologies become unimportant or even unnecessary?

Thank you.
 
mech-eng said:
So is the only superiority of calculators versus smartphones is that they are allowed in the exams? Might this remark imply that when time pass, some technologies become unimportant or even unnecessary?

Thank you.
I think calculators have other strong points. For instance battery life. It may or not be relevant to your use, but they wins hands down vs smartphones.
They only have that purpose to do calculations/plotting. This means no distraction (unless you install games, which is possible...). This may be a good point or a bad point.

Nevertheless, I think calculators are overpriced for what they do and what they are.
But well, if you need a calculator in your courses (I barely had to use a calculator in the undergraduate physics exams I've had), there might be no other option than to buy one.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: scottdave
Some well-designed scientific calculators have been easier/quicker to use than equivalent apps on a smart phone, at least for fairly routine/familiar functions. Even just having real buttons can be advantageous. Unfortunately, many of the "advanced" graphing calculators, especially those designed for classrooms (as opposed to professional science/engineering use) have not been particularly quick to use.

Of course, if you are intending to use it on an exam — well then, you better get familiar with it! (And for those purposes I think it's unlikely that smart phones will be allowed anytime soon, just for security reasons).
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: CalcNerd
This is a personal preference, but I like how the buttons react. I can type many calculations on .y calculator without looking
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: olivermsun
If you don't have a smart phone, buy one. MOST math applications for smart phones are available from free to cheap, with the option buy even better if you really want (I would advise to stay with free or cheap). A smart phone is a necessity in today's world. You need one.

However, if you are taking a class that requires a calculator, buy that too. Buy cheap if you are on a budget. $15-$25 will get you a very capable pocket calculator. If you want fancier, buy a graphics. Casio graphing calculators can be purchased for $50 new in the USA. Better costs more, but a low end graphing calculator can be very beneficial in a math class. Spending more usually buys more capability, but no calculator can match a PC with math software. Where do you plan to draw the line?

While I do appreciate a high end graphing calculator, I most often use a pocket calculator and move to a PC for complex calculations.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: mech-eng
  • #10
CalcNerd said:
If you don't have a smart phone, buy one
I have one of them but it has 512 MB Ram and it is with win 8.1.
CalcNerd said:
Spending more usually buys more capability, but no calculator can match a PC with math software.

I was also wondering about calculation and graphing power of modern calculators over smartphones. Which one is stronger? Can calculators match smart phones with advanced features?

Thank you.
 
  • #11
Certainly, most calculators have apps that work on a smart phone ie you can make the smart phone clone the calculator. Also there is math software available for smart phones, so yes, smart phones can be made to be more powerful than graphing calculators. However, the physical interface of the calculator is most preferred for most applications as stated by others above. And most exams or academic settings will NOT allow a smart phone vs allowing you to use a calculator.

If $$$ are not an issue, the three high end graphing calculators currently available are the Hp Prime, the Ti Nspire and the Casio ClassPad 500?? (not sure which ## the Casio's new high end).

Since you already have a smartphone, you should be able to load some type of graphing calculator app to try and if acceptable, should be fine. However, as others have said, a good keyboard can't be beat.
 
  • Like
Likes   Reactions: scottdave

Similar threads

Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 27 ·
Replies
27
Views
16K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
10K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
18K
Replies
9
Views
9K
  • · Replies 12 ·
Replies
12
Views
4K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
8K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
8K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
63K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
2K