Sum of basis elements form a basis

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This discussion establishes that a set of vectors $\{b_1, \ldots, b_n\}$ forms a basis of a vector space $V$ if and only if the set $\{b_1', \ldots, b_n'\}$, where $b_k' = \sum_{i=1}^k b_i$, also forms a basis of $V$. The proof demonstrates that both sets are linearly independent and have the same number of elements, confirming their status as bases. The participants confirm the correctness of the reasoning and the application of linear independence in both directions.

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Hey! :o

Let $V$ be a vector space. Let $b_1, \ldots , b_n\in V$ and let $\displaystyle{b_k':=\sum_{i=1}^kb_i}$ for $k=1, \ldots , n$.

I want to show that $\{b_1, \ldots , b_n\}$ is a basis of $V$ iff $\{b_1', \ldots , b_n'\}$ is a basis of $V$. I have done the following:

Let $B:=\{b_1, \ldots , b_n\}$ be a basis of $V$.

That means that the set is linearly independent and $|B|=\dim (V)$, right?

We want to show that the set $B':=\{b_1', \ldots , b_n'\}$ is also linearly independent and $|B'|=\dim (V)$, don't we?

Since the elements of $B$ is linearly independent, we have that $c_1b_1+c_2b_2+\ldots c_nb_n=0 \Rightarrow c_1=c_2=\ldots =c_n=0$.

We have that \begin{align*}\gamma_1b_1'+\gamma_2b_2'+\ldots \gamma_nb_n'=0 &\Rightarrow \gamma_1\sum_{i=1}^1b_i+\gamma_2\sum_{i=1}^2b_i+\ldots \gamma_n\sum_{i=1}^nb_i=0 \\ & \Rightarrow b_1\sum_{i=1}^n\gamma_i+b_2\sum_{i=2}^n\gamma_i+\ldots +b_n\sum_{i=n}^n\gamma_i=0 \\ & \Rightarrow \sum_{i=n}^1\gamma_i=\sum_{i=n}^2\gamma_i=\ldots =\sum_{i=n}^n\gamma_i=0\\ & \Rightarrow \gamma_1=\gamma_2=\ldots =\gamma_n=0\end{align*}

Since the set $B'$ has $n$ elements as the set $B$ it follows that $|B'|=\dim (V)$.

Therefore $B'$ is a basis of $V$.

Is at this direction everything correct? (Wondering) For the other direction:

Let $B'=\{b_1', \ldots , b_n'\}$ be a basis of $V$.

That means that the set is linearly independent and $|B'|=\dim (V)$.

We want to show that the set $B:=\{b_1, \ldots , b_n\}$ is also linearly independent and $|B|=\dim (V)$.

Since the elements of $B'$ is linearly independent, we have that $\gamma_1b_1'+\gamma_2b_2'+\ldots \gamma_nb_n'=0 \Rightarrow \gamma_1=\gamma_2=\ldots =\gamma_n=0$.

How do we get from $c_1b_1+c_2b_2+\ldots c_nb_n=0 $ the linear combination with the elements $b_i'$ ? (Wondering)
 
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mathmari said:
Is at this direction everything correct? (Wondering)

Hey mathmari!

Yep. It's all correct so far. (Bow)

mathmari said:
Let $B'=\{b_1', \ldots , b_n'\}$ be a basis of $V$.

That means that the set is linearly independent and $|B'|=\dim (V)$.

We want to show that the set $B:=\{b_1, \ldots , b_n\}$ is also linearly independent and $|B|=\dim (V)$.

Since the elements of $B'$ is linearly independent, we have that $\gamma_1b_1'+\gamma_2b_2'+\ldots \gamma_nb_n'=0 \Rightarrow \gamma_1=\gamma_2=\ldots =\gamma_n=0$.

How do we get from $c_1b_1+c_2b_2+\ldots c_nb_n=0 $ the linear combination with the elements $b_i'$ ?

How about substituting the definitions of $b_i'$ and continue in a similar fashion as the other direction? (Wondering)
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
How about substituting the definitions of $b_i'$ and continue in a similar fashion as the other direction? (Wondering)

We have the following:
\begin{align*}\gamma_1b_1'+\gamma_2b_2'+\ldots \gamma_nb_n'=0 &\Rightarrow \gamma_1\sum_{i=1}^1b_i+\gamma_2\sum_{i=1}^2b_i+\ldots \gamma_n\sum_{i=1}^nb_i=0 \\ & \Rightarrow b_1\sum_{i=1}^n\gamma_i+b_2\sum_{i=2}^n\gamma_i+\ldots +b_n\sum_{i=n}^n\gamma_i=0 \\ & \Rightarrow \sum_{i=n}^1\gamma_i=\sum_{i=n}^2\gamma_i=\ldots =\sum_{i=n}^n\gamma_i=0 \ \text{ since } \gamma_1=\gamma_2=\ldots =\gamma_n=0\end{align*}
From that it follows that the elements of $B$ are linearly independent.

Is that correct? (Wondering)

Since the set $B$ has $n$ elements as the set $B'$ it follows that $|B|=\dim (V)$ and so $B$ is also a basis. We use here the fact that if a set is linearly independent and has the same number of elements than a basis which means that it spans the vector space then that set is also a basis, right? (Wondering)
 
Yep. All correct. (Nod)
 
Klaas van Aarsen said:
Yep. All correct. (Nod)

Great! Thanks a lot! (Mmm)
 

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