Sun and Earth Mass, Distance, and Center-of-Mass Problem: Exam Sample

  • Thread starter Thread starter quickclick330
  • Start date Start date
  • Tags Tags
    Earth Sun
Click For Summary

Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving the mass and distance between the Sun and Earth, specifically focusing on calculating the distance from the center-of-mass of the Sun to the center-of-mass of the Sun-Earth system. The subject area includes gravitational forces and center-of-mass calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore relevant formulas related to gravitational force and orbital mechanics. Questions arise about the application of Kepler's laws and the relationship between centripetal force and gravitational force. There is also a discussion about how to eliminate velocity from the equations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants sharing insights and questioning the necessity of certain laws in solving the problem. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of centripetal force and the relationship to the period of revolution, while others express concerns about the clarity of previous assistance.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that there may be confusion regarding the application of Kepler's laws and the relevance of certain equations to the problem at hand. There is an acknowledgment of previous help being inadequate, which may affect the understanding of the current problem.

quickclick330
Messages
82
Reaction score
0
More sample exam problems...

2) The mass of our sun is ~ 2 x 10^30 kg. The mass of a planet is 6 x 10^24 kg. If the
distance between the center-of-mass of each is 100 x 10^11 m, what is the distance
in meters from the center-of-mass of the sun to the center-of-mass of the Sun-
Earth system?

What should I use to go about this problem? Thanks!
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Well, you could start by writing down some relevant formulas, such as:

[tex]F_{g} = \frac{Gm_{1}m_{2}}{r^{2}}[/tex]

[tex]\frac{T_{A}^{2}}{r_{A}^{3}} = \frac{T_{B}^{2}}{r_{B}^{3}}[/tex]
 
What is the second equation? I'm not familiar with that one.
 
That is the third law of Johannes Kepler. ;-)
r: sun-planet distance
T: period
 
That one would help. So how would you relate them together? Energy Principle?
 
The second equation is what happens as a result of some fancy manipulation of centripetal force and gravitational force of attraction.
 
ooh okay. I went to a help center and we had the centripetal force and gravitational force set equal to each other but the grad TA couldn't figure out how to get rid of velocity. So that second equation is really all i need right?
 
Use the centripetal force as [itex]m\omega^2r[/itex] where [itex]\omega=\frac{2\pi}{T}[/itex] to not have v and have the period of revolution
 
will r be the distance from planet to center of mass?
 
  • #10
Yes.
 
  • #11
I realize this is too late, but the help here has been quite bad. There is no need to invoke any of Kepler's laws to solve this problem. This is a simple problem. Quickclick, what is the equation of the center of mass for a group of particles?
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 21 ·
Replies
21
Views
2K
  • · Replies 7 ·
Replies
7
Views
3K
Replies
3
Views
2K
Replies
8
Views
2K
Replies
17
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 14 ·
Replies
14
Views
6K
  • · Replies 5 ·
Replies
5
Views
8K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
2K