Sun Circumference - A Picture on 04/18/2010

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The discussion revolves around a photograph taken of the sun on 04/18/2010, with participants exploring the possibility of calculating the sun's circumference based on the image. The conversation touches on physics and mathematics related to visual perception and measurement from an Earth-based standpoint.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses curiosity about calculating the physics and mathematics to understand what is visible in the photograph of the sun.
  • Another participant inquires about the phenomenon of halos around the sun or moon, suggesting a related topic of interest.
  • A participant discusses the need for a metric reference to make accurate calculations, emphasizing the challenge of measuring distant objects like the sun.
  • This participant suggests using known distances of objects or camera properties to aid in calculations, highlighting the importance of having reference points in the image.
  • A later reply acknowledges the cropping of the image, which obscured potential reference points (trees) that could assist in measurement.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants appear to share an interest in the calculations related to the photograph but do not reach a consensus on how to proceed with the measurements or the implications of the image.

Contextual Notes

The discussion highlights limitations in measurement due to the lack of visible reference objects in the cropped image and the distance of the sun, which complicates the calculation process.

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I took this picture on 04/18/2010, and I thought that I see the sun circumference. I just wonder can I calculate the physics and mathematics equations to figure out what is it that I am seeing in this picture. I stood from Earth standpoint, and I took this picture at noon time of the day.
 

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Vi Nguyen said:
I just wonder can I calculate the physics and mathematics equations to figure out what is it that I am seeing in this picture. I stood from Earth standpoint, and I took this picture at noon time of the day.

For calculations we need some kind of metric reference.

Usually a picture is taken with some kind of ruler in the display at the same distance as the object we're interested in.
Or otherwise an object of known size.
That won't work in this case of course as the sun is a bit too far away for that.
We can compensate if we know the distance of the ruler from the camera.
In this case it would help if those trees at the bottom would actually be inside the picture, and if we know the distances between those trees, and the distance of those trees to the camera.

Alternatively, we can combine the properties of a camera with its pixel resolution into a measurement.
We still need to know these properties then.

Preferably we have both, so can verify we got the correct numbers.
 
You are right, I cropped the picture, that is why you can't see clearly the two trees on each side as a reference. The full picture is as show below:
 

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