Sun's Magnetic Field, Global Warming

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the Sun's magnetic field, its solar cycle, and the relationship between solar activity (such as sunspots) and global warming. Participants explore concepts related to solar radiation, atmospheric effects, and historical climate patterns.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Conceptual clarification

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants confirm that the Sun changes its magnetic poles approximately every 11 years, which is associated with the solar cycle.
  • There is a claim that the Sun's radiation does not destroy the atmosphere, with UV radiation being absorbed by the ozone layer, but the role of solar radiation in global warming is questioned.
  • One participant expresses uncertainty about the connection between magnetic field changes and the increase in sunspots, seeking clarification on this relationship.
  • Another participant suggests that the increase in sunspots during magnetic field changes is explained by solar dynamics, referencing a Wikipedia article on the solar cycle.
  • Concerns are raised about the difficulty of answering questions based on incomplete recollections from class discussions.
  • Participants discuss the historical context of sunspot records, noting that our understanding is limited to a few hundred years compared to the Sun's 4 billion-year history.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the implications of sunspot activity or its relationship to global warming. Multiple competing views remain regarding the effects of solar radiation on the atmosphere and climate.

Contextual Notes

Some participants acknowledge limitations in their understanding and the complexity of climate interactions, highlighting the challenges in identifying all factors affecting global climate.

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In the class our prof said, Sun changes its magnetic poles in every 11 year.And when changes the black spots on the sun increases Is this true ?
Also she said Sun's cosmic radiation waves destroyes the upper atmosphere of earth.It was something like this.I don't quite remember.Actually thata the reason why I am asking to these questions here.She also said for 60 years Earth was hot due to this reason.

Any different ideas ? Things that you want to change ?
 
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Arman777 said:
In the class our prof said, Sun changes its magnetic poles in every 11 year.And when changes the black spots on the sun increases Is this true ?

Yes, this is known as the solar cycle.

Arman777 said:
Also she said Sun's cosmic radiation waves destroyes the upper atmosphere of earth.It was something like this.I don't quite remember.Actually thata the reason why I am asking to these questions here.She also said for 60 years Earth was hot due to this reason.

The Sun's radiation isn't destroying the atmosphere. UV radiation is absorbed by the atmosphere, especially the ozone layer, but I've never heard of it being a major contributor to global warming. There are thousands upon thousands of different things that affect the global climate and just trying to identify them all is extremely complicated, let alone figuring out how they all interact with each other and how much effect each one has.
 
Drakkith said:
Yes, this is known as the solar cycle.
The Sun's radiation isn't destroying the atmosphere. UV radiation is absorbed by the atmosphere, especially the ozone layer, but I've never heard of it being a major contributor to global warming. There are thousands upon thousands of different things that affect the global climate and just trying to identify them all is extremely complicated, let alone figuring out how they all interact with each other and how much effect each one has.
I see, maybe she said something else but I don't quite remember it.Probably I said it wrong in here.Do we know why black spots on the sun increase due to magnetic field changes ?
 
I honestly don't know. Perhaps someone else here can answer that.
 
Arman777 said:
.It was something like this.I don't quite remember

With all due respect, shouldn't you pay more attention in class? "My teacher said something that I don't remember - please explain it to me" is a very difficult question to answer.
 
Vanadium 50 said:
With all due respect, shouldn't you pay more attention in class? "My teacher said something that I don't remember - please explain it to me" is a very difficult question to answer.
I was listening but it was near the end of class and class is like 100 people so I couldn't hear then I thought I could ask her but another people went her to ask things so I thought I can ask in here.
 
I looked also this and its interesting actually.As my prof said sunspots are increasing during these magnetic field changes

"Sunspots eventually decay, releasing magnetic flux in the photosphere. This flux is dispersed and churned by turbulent convection and solar large-scale flows. These transport mechanisms lead to the accumulation of magnetized decay products at high solar latitudes, eventually reversing the polarity of the polar fields (notice how the blue and yellow fields reverse in the Hathaway/NASA/MSFC graph above).The dipolar component of the solar magnetic field reverses polarity around the time of solar maximum and reaches peak strength at the solar minimum." (Wikipedia,https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_cycle)

So I think here explains why we observe more sunspots.But I didnt quite understand it.Also I looked how the solar cycle affects climate and it says it nearly doesn't affect.
500px-Sunspot_Numbers.png

In this graph Sunspots are increasing (in average) is that means something ?
 
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Arman777 said:
In this graph Sunspots are increasing (in average) is that means something ?
Not as far as I know. Our Sun is more than 4 billion years old but we've only been keeping records of sunspots for a few hundred years. If we could look back over this long time period it's likely we would see averages far above what we see now and stretches of highs and lows that last for much longer than perhaps 50 years.
 
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Drakkith said:
Not as far as I know. Our Sun is more than 4 billion years old but we've only been keeping records of sunspots for a few hundred years. If we could look back over this long time period it's likely we would see averages far above what we see now and stretches of highs and lows that last for much longer than perhaps 50 years.
Makes sense..
 

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