Supplied continuously-Tank Draining Problem

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The problem involves a tank that is continuously filled with water at a rate of 5 L/min, while simultaneously draining through a hole at the bottom. The goal is to determine the height of the water in the tank as a function of time, denoted as h(t). The discussion revolves around applying Bernoulli's Law and the implications of differential equations in this context.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between the inflow and outflow rates, with some suggesting the formulation of a differential equation to model the situation. Questions arise regarding the necessity of differential equations and the validity of the professor's guidance on the topic.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the problem, with some participants attempting to derive a differential equation while others express confusion about the professor's stance on the use of such equations. A participant has proposed a specific equation but has received feedback questioning its correctness.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of the problem due to the continuous water supply and the height of the tank, which is assumed to be very high. There is also mention of differing opinions on the necessity of differential equations in solving the problem.

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Homework Statement


OK, here is my problem.
There's a tank, continuously filled by water from top, at 5 L/minute flow rate. The tank has a hole on bottom (at h=0) of it, so water also come out through it. The Area of hole is 1 cm2 and Area of tank is 0.25 m2.
The height of the tank supposed to be very high so water can't out.

The question is about equation h(t), that is height of water in the tank versus time.

Homework Equations


My teacher told us to start from Bernoulli's Law, but I'm stuck now...the problem just confused me because there is continuously water supply...

The Attempt at a Solution


I realized that water flow at the hole is dependent on height of the water, and height is also dependent on time.

Any idea? Please help me. Thanks in advance.
 
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This sounds like a classic problem in differential equations. Like you said, the rate of water flow out the bottom depends on height, and the height depends on the overall water flow which is a combination of the drain and the continuous supply. So write a differential equation that includes all this.

Intuitively, since the tank is very tall, you can imagine that there will be a point where the inflow and outflow rates become equal: the height - and therefore water pressure - becomes large enough so that the outflow approaches 5 L/min, and the tank stops filling. So I would think you're looking for some sort of exponential decay.
 
Yes, I also think it's a differential problem, but my teacher wasn't. I don't know why he said that we don't need to use differential equation...he's a professor in quantum physic, expert one, so I still confuse about that...is it true that we don't need it? Is it possible?

Still, I can't make a differential equation too...(I am new here, also not so smart in physic, this is not my field actually...)
 
OK. I have figured it out.

I build a differential equation, solve it using finite difference.

dh/dt = ((2-A2*sqrt(2g*h))/A1
 
You should check your equation. It's wrong, at least, in the dimensions; but the form looks fine.
Maybe your professor meant, computing a direct integral is not solving a differential equation? :biggrin:
 

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