Supreme Court Judges should be ELECTED

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The discussion centers on the proposal that U.S. Supreme Court Justices should be elected rather than appointed. Participants explore the implications of such a change, including potential impacts on judicial independence, the influence of campaign financing, and the overall effectiveness of the judicial system. The conversation touches on constitutional considerations, the role of the judiciary, and the relationship between the judiciary and the electorate.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants argue that electing Supreme Court Justices would empower the electorate and align the judiciary more closely with democratic principles.
  • Others express concern that elections would introduce significant campaign financing pressures, potentially compromising judicial impartiality.
  • One participant highlights the constitutional framework, noting that the current system involves presidential nominations and Senate confirmations, which are indirectly elected processes.
  • Some argue that the judiciary's role is to interpret the Constitution rather than reflect public opinion, suggesting that changes to the appointment process could undermine this function.
  • Concerns are raised about the potential for increased political influence in the courts if Justices were elected, with some participants suggesting that the current system provides a necessary buffer against political pressures.
  • There is a discussion about the implications of life-long appointments, with some participants advocating for shorter terms to promote accountability.
  • One participant questions whether the public is equipped to make informed decisions about judicial candidates, citing the risk of voting based on party lines or single issues.
  • Another participant notes that the infrequency of judicial appointments can lead to a lack of ideological diversity on the Supreme Court.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the proposal to elect Supreme Court Justices, with no consensus reached. Some support the idea of elections, while others raise significant concerns about the potential consequences. The discussion remains unresolved with competing perspectives on the effectiveness and implications of such a change.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference the U.S. Constitution and the existing appointment process, indicating a need for a substantial amendment to implement elected Justices. The discussion reflects various assumptions about the role of the judiciary and the impact of political dynamics on judicial decision-making.

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I firmly believe that our Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court should be ELECTED. The Constitution has set up THREE separate branches of our Government. The Congress, President and Supreme Court. WE elect our Congress and President, BUT not our THIRD branch, the Supreme Court. WHY NOT? Not only should they be elected but I believe that TERM limits for all our Branches of Government should be for ONE FIVE year term and that's it. This would possibly stop the present system which allows for the creation of powerful and influential individuals. Also, there would be no more continuous campaining by a "just elected" individual as there would be no second term to run for. I say give the power to the people at all levels. To allow one branch of government to select another should be unconstitutional.
 
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Electing our Supreme Court judges would create more problems. Like electing a president, they will have big money campaign contributors such as multinational companies, which will affect their ruling in the Supreme Court.
 
US Constitution:
Article II, section 2 (on duties of the President):

He shall have power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur; and he shall nominate, and by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, shall appoint Ambassadors, other public Ministers and Consuls, Judges of the supreme court, and all other officers of the United States, whose Appointments are not herein otherwise provided for, and which shall be established by law;...


This would be a whopping big amendment to try to get approved.
 
The Judicial branch is supposed to enforce and interpret the Constitution, not the will of the people. If the people don't like the judicial interpretation of the Constitution, they can change the Constitution through the elected branches of the government.
 
Do we really want politics polluting the courts any more than it already does? Frankly, I think our federal appeals court and Supreme Court do an overall decent job. No, I don't always agree, but I can usually at least follow their reasoning. Try getting such good service out of an elected official...
 
Originally posted by master_coda
The Judicial branch is supposed to enforce and interpret the Constitution, not the will of the people. If the people don't like the judicial interpretation of the Constitution, they can change the Constitution through the elected branches of the government.

Exactly.

timejim,
You firmly believe that they should be elected, but what makes that belief so firm?
What would be the benefit of the Justices being elected over them being appointed?
 
Originally posted by master_coda
The Judicial branch is supposed to enforce and interpret the Constitution, not the will of the people. If the people don't like the judicial interpretation of the Constitution, they can change the Constitution through the elected branches of the government.

Not enforce. Judicial branches can only enforce the law within their courtrooms. They may issue warrants and subpeonas, but they rely on executive agencies to enforce them.

Just nit-picking.

Njorl
 
Originally posted by timejim
I firmly believe that our Justices of the U.S. Supreme Court should be ELECTED.

Can you imagine Judge Schwarzenegger? Judge Perot?

I'm not sure the voting public could identify the best law experts to sit on the highest court (since many people tend to vote based on a specific issue or just along party lines). I suppose it's possible in an ideal world if enough info was provided, but I think it would be difficult and susceptible to corruption.

At least we vote for the people who pick the judges.

Nice idea but I'm not sure it would work out well.
 
They are indirectly elected aren't they? The President nominates (wrong word? - can' think of right one) them, and then the House and/or Senate (WE elected THEM) confirms them (or not...). Right? What about the life-long appointment, though? What are your thoughts on that? I believe I might prefer a little shorter term...
 
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Originally posted by Tsunami
They are indirectly elected aren't they? The President nominates (wrong word? - can' think of right one) them, and then the House and/or Senate (WE elected THEM) confirms them (or not...). Right? What about the life-long appointment, though? What are your thoughts on that? I believe I might prefer a little shorter term...

Well, obviously the judges have to be appointed by someone, so elected officials will be involved somewhat. But because new judges aren't appointed all that often, it takes a long time for the elected branchs to fill the supreme court with judges with the same ideology.

I've noticed that one of the things that seems to make supreme court justices unpopular is when the judges "change" a long-standing interpretation of the Constitution. But reducing the length of the appointments or electing the judges would cause this to happen more often, not less.
 
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Originally posted by master_coda
Well, obviously the judges have to be appointed by someone, so elected officials will be involved somewhat. But because new judges aren't appointed all that often, it takes a long time for the elected branchs to fill the supreme court with judges with the same ideology.

I've noticed that one of the things that seems to make supreme court justices unpopular is when the judges "change" a long-standing interpretation of the Constitution. But reducing the length of the appointments or electing the judges would cause this to happen more often, not less.
Good points...the fact that the court remains the same over the long term keeps the courts from being too reactionary. Most of the anger against the Supreme Court currently seems to stem from the fact that the Republicans have been trying to shut out all dissent and opposing viewpoints, and the Court is mostly immune from that sort of direct influence.
 

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