Surds - Division & rationalising

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The problem involves simplifying the expression 5√20 / 5√15 and expressing the answer as a surd. Participants are exploring the steps taken to simplify the expression and the correct final form of the answer.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • Participants discuss the steps taken to simplify the expression, including multiplying by √15/√15 and simplifying the numerator. Questions arise about specific transitions between steps and the correctness of the final answer.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the simplification process and noted discrepancies in the original problem entered into an external tool. There is an ongoing exploration of how to properly express the final answer, with different interpretations being considered.

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Participants are working under the constraint of expressing the answer as a surd and are questioning the conventions around rationalizing the denominator.

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Homework Statement



simplify 5√20 / 5√15

Homework Equations



express your answer as a surd

The Attempt at a Solution



Looking for someone to check my work

1. multiply (5√20)/(2√15) by (√15/√15)

2. Above gives (5√300)/30

3. Simplify the topline to 5 √100 x √3

4. answer (50√3) / 30

I checked my answer using http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=simplify+(5√20)/(2√15)

says I should get 5/√3

how do you go about working out the above answer

thanks
 
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chuffy said:

Homework Statement



simplify 5√20 / 5√15

Homework Equations



express your answer as a surd

The Attempt at a Solution



Looking for someone to check my work

1. multiply (5√20)/(2√15) by (√15/√15)

2. Above gives (5√300)/30

3. Simplify the topline to 5 √100 x √3

4. answer (50√3) / 30

I checked my answer using http://www.wolframalpha.com/input/?i=simplify+(5√20)/(5√15)
You entered a different problem on wolframalpha. What you entered there was 5√20/(5[/color]√15)

The answer you have above is correct but should be reduced.
chuffy said:
says I should get 2/√3

how do you go about working out the above answer

thanks
 
Mark44 said:
You entered a different problem on wolframalpha. What you entered there was 5√20/(5[/color]√15)

The answer you have above is correct but should be reduced.

Yeah looks like I entered that wrong on the website

so (50√3)/ 30 can be tided up by having the √3 on the bottom

gives 150/(30√3)

which gives 5/√3
 
chuffy said:
Yeah looks like I entered that wrong on the website

so (50√3)/ 30 can be tided up by having the √3 on the bottom

gives 150/(30√3)

which gives 5/√3

Usually when you get questions like rationalizing the denominator, it's customary to leave your answer without any surds in the denominator, so even though 5/\sqrt{3} looks neater, you should leave your answer as 5\sqrt{3}/3
 

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