Surface Gravity vs. Gravitational Field Strength: What's the Difference?

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The discussion centers on the distinction between 'surface gravity' and 'gravitational field strength,' exploring their definitions, units of measurement, and contextual applications. Participants examine whether these terms are interchangeable and how they relate to the concepts of force and mass.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether 'surface gravity' is the same as 'gravitational field strength,' suggesting that surface gravity is a specific case of gravitational field strength measured at the Earth's surface.
  • There is a discussion about the units of measurement for gravitational concepts, with references to acceleration due to gravity (m/s²) and gravitational field strength (N/kg) being equivalent.
  • One participant proposes that surface gravity refers to the strength of gravity on an object in contact with the Earth, while gravitational field strength may refer to the force exerted at a distance from the Earth.
  • Another participant clarifies that gravitational field strength is a general term that can apply at various distances from a mass, not just at the surface.
  • Participants engage in mathematical reasoning, referencing Newton's second law (F=ma) to relate force, mass, and acceleration.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether 'surface gravity' and 'gravitational field strength' are interchangeable. Multiple views are presented regarding their definitions and applications, indicating ongoing debate.

Contextual Notes

Some assumptions about the definitions of surface gravity and gravitational field strength remain unresolved, and there is ambiguity regarding the conditions under which these terms apply.

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1. Is 'surface gravity' the same as 'gravitational field strength'?

2. It seems to me that the 'g' in the formula w = mg sometimes refers to acceleration due to gravity (measured in m/s^2) and sometimes refers to something else that I've not quite grasped yet (measured in N/kg) ; what is the something else? And do the values of each always match exactly, ie, acceleration due to gravity near the surface of the Earth is 9.8 m / s ^2 and the magnitude of the 'something else' is 9.8 N/kg (likewise for on or near the Moon; 1.6 m/s^2 and 1.6 N/kg).
 
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Cliff Hanley said:
sometimes refers to something else that I've not quite grasped yet (measured in N/kg
Ok.Let me help you.What is the SI unit of force?What is SI unit of mass?
 
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gracy said:
Ok.Let me help you.What is the SI unit of force?What is SI unit of mass?
Thanks. The SI unit of force is Newtons (N). The SI unit of mass is kilograms (kg).
 
Cliff Hanley said:
Is 'surface gravity' the same as 'gravitational field strength'?
No , it isn't . The first is gravitational field strength at the surface of the Earth .

The second is a general term , that refers to the force a body exerts on a unit mass , kept at some distance , say d .

If mass of that body is M , then it's gravitational field strength at a distance d would be -
GM / d2 .

Hope this helps .
 
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I think you have got it !but anyways
what is Force /mass ?
 
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Qwertywerty said:
No , it isn't . The first is gravitational field strength at the surface of the Earth .

The second is a general term , that refers to the force a body exerts on a unit mass , kept at some distance , say d .

If mass of that body is M , then it's gravitational field strength at a distance d would be -
GM / d2 .

Hope this helps .
Thanks. Is surface gravity therefore the strength of gravity on an object when *in contact* with the Earth? Is that the phenomenon that's measured in N/kg? And is g.f.s therefore the strength of gravity not *in contact* with the Earth, but some distance from it?
 
gracy said:
I think you have got it !but anyways
what is Force /mass ?
F/m is..? Well, I know that F=ma (Newton's 2nd law of motion), so F/m=a, yes?
 
Cliff Hanley said:
yes?
Right ! so N/kg comes out to be acceleration .Acceleration has another unit i.e m/s^2.N/Kg and m/s^2 is one and the same thing.
 
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Cliff Hanley said:
Thanks. Is surface gravity therefore the strength of gravity on an object when *in contact* with the Earth? Is that the phenomenon that's measured in N/kg?
Well , I'd rather say it was the g.f.s close to , or on the surface of the Earth . G.f.s is measured in N/kg , and as surface gravity is a special case of g.f.s , it has the same units ( Surface gravity is g ) .
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And is g.f.s therefore the strength of gravity not *in contact* with the Earth, but some distance from it?
Not necessarily . I've answered this in the previous part of this post .
 
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