Symbolic represenation of the unit vector and the vector

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the symbolic representation of unit vectors and vectors, specifically focusing on the use of hats and arrows in notation. Participants explore the conventions used in different texts and the rationale behind these notations, touching on the implications for clarity and standardization in mathematical communication.

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  • Conceptual clarification
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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants assert that a hat symbol typically denotes a unit vector, while bold letters or letters with arrows represent regular vectors.
  • One participant clarifies that a unit vector is a specific type of vector with unit length, and the hat symbol is used to indicate this distinction.
  • Another participant expresses confusion about the necessity of using a hat for unit vectors instead of an arrow, questioning the rationale behind the notation change.
  • Several participants note that different textbooks use varying conventions, with some using boldface without hats to denote unit vectors, leading to a perceived lack of standardization.
  • There is a suggestion that the hat notation may be used specifically to distinguish basis vectors in certain contexts, rather than universally for all unit vectors.
  • One participant mentions that in classroom settings, alternative notations like \vec and \hat are convenient due to limitations in writing tools.
  • Some participants express frustration over the inconsistency in notation across different texts and the potential confusion it causes for students.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the use of hats versus arrows for unit vectors, with multiple competing views on the conventions and their implications for clarity in mathematical notation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight the lack of standardization in notation for vectors and unit vectors, indicating that different texts may adopt different conventions without clear justification.

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1. Is v-hat a unit vector or a vector?

If it is a unit vector how do you symbolically represent a vector?
If it is a vector how do you symbolically represent a unit vector?

2. Is v-hat the same thing as v with an arrow over it?
 
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usually things with a hat are unit vectors, bolded letters or letters with arrows on top are regular vectors
 
Helicobacter said:
1. Is v-hat a unit vector or a vector?

To be a bit flip, yes. A unit vector is a vector. Specifically, it is a vector with unit length.

In terms of vector analysis, the hat symbol place over some other symbol almost exclusively denotes that the quantity in question is a unit vector. Since a unit vector is a special kind of vector, you don't really need to be verbose and say it is a vector as well. That said, some use bold symbols to represent vectors, and a unit vector is a represented as a bold symbol with a hat over it.

If it is a unit vector how do you symbolically represent a vector?
If it is a vector how do you symbolically represent a unit vector?

These two statements indicate you are having a bit of a confusion regarding what constitutes a vector. A vector is some thing with a magnitude and a direction. A unit vector is a vector with unit magnitude.

2. Is v-hat the same thing as v with an arrow over it?

No. A v with an arrow over it connotes a vector, period. It might have magnitude 20, 1/20, whatever.
 
Thanks for your responses!

My textbook uses only boldface w/o hats to denote unit vectors :/

Why don't they standardize these things? Derivative symbol, vectors,...-it's a total chaos
 
Helicobacter said:
My textbook uses only boldface w/o hats to denote unit vectors :/

I've seen many schemes before, but never that one. I suppose the authors have their reasons. Personally, yech.

Why don't they standardize these things? Derivative symbol, vectors,...-it's a total chaos

People can get downright religious regarding nomenclature. For example, the authors of your text must love this scheme. People tend to abandon their idiosyncratic ways when they are ridiculed enough. Having enough instructors stop using their texts because of the idiosyncratic notations helps. Until then, the poor students are stuck with it.
 
I wanted to know why shall we give a hat over a vector?why shall we change our arrow?what is the need?
 
Is your text using the "hat" for all unit vectors or is it using that notation specifically to distinguish basis vectors? That would make a lot more sense. In any case, there is no deep mathematical distinction between vectors in general and "unit" vectors or "basis" vectors. There may be some convenience in a particular application in distinguishing them.
 
Of course, if you are in front of a class, you don't have the option of bold-face chalk. So \vec u and \hat u are pretty convenient notations.
 
no,u didn't understood me.I wanted to know that why are unit vectors are given a hat over them?i.e. We were using vectors by giving an arrow over it then why suddenly a hat was introduced for unit vectors?what if we use the same arrow for unit vectors also.
 
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I have never seen a text use a "hat" to distinguish unit vectors. I have seen that used (mostly in physics texts) to distinguish vectors in a particular basis. And they do that, of course, to make it clear that these are basis vectors, as opposed to general vectors.
 
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HallsofIvy said:
I have never seen a text use a "hat" to distinguish unit vectors. I have seen that used (mostly in physics texts) to distinguish vectors in a particular basis. And they do that, of course, to make it clear that these are basis vectors, as opposed to general vectors.

I think that notation is a bit more common. A quick google search finds this text:
http://books.google.com/books?id=cu...6AEwBw#v=onepage&q=unit vector symbol&f=false
 
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HallsofIvy said:
I have never seen a text use a "hat" to distinguish unit vectors. I have seen that used (mostly in physics texts) to distinguish vectors in a particular basis. And they do that, of course, to make it clear that these are basis vectors, as opposed to general vectors.
The usage of hats to denote unit vectors, regardless of the basis, is widely used among physicists.
 

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