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The discussion revolves around the meanings and uses of various mathematical symbols that can replace the equal sign, specifically focusing on the symbols ~, ≈, ≃, and ≅. Participants explore their definitions, contexts of use, and implications in mathematical expressions.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants propose that the symbol ~ denotes "is proportional to" or "is similar to," while others suggest it can mean "asymptotic to."
  • The symbol ≈ is generally agreed upon as meaning "approximately equal to."
  • There is uncertainty regarding the symbol ≃, with some suggesting it means "asymptotically equal to" and others indicating it could mean "congruent to."
  • The symbol ≅ is mentioned as meaning "congruent to" or "isomorphic," but its use is less clear among participants.
  • A participant shares a formula and questions whether a discrepancy in values indicates a misunderstanding of "asymptotically equal."
  • Another participant provides an interpretation of "asymptotically equal" in the context of a simulation, suggesting it relates to averaging over cycles.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the meanings of the second and fourth symbols but express differing views on the first and third symbols, indicating multiple competing interpretations remain unresolved.

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Some definitions appear to depend on specific mathematical contexts, and there is a lack of consensus on the precise meanings of the first and third symbols. Additionally, the discussion includes references to practical applications and examples that may not be universally applicable.

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Sometimes the following symbols are used instead of an equal sign. I think the single one ~ means "is proportional to". One of the other ones means "is approximately". Which one is it? I'm guessing the second one because LaTex calls it approx. When are the others used?

<br /> \begin{array}{l}<br /> \sim \\ <br /> \approx \\ <br /> \simeq \\ <br /> \cong \\ <br /> \end{array}<br />
 
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The first one sometimes denotes 'to be in a relation'. The second one, means 'approximately'. The third one can mean 'to be congruent'. I'm not sure about the fourth one. Do some google-ing, and you should find out easily.
 
The first is also used in the narrower sense "asymptotic to".
 
Doesn't the first one mean "goes as", i.e. is functionally similar, but not neccessarily asymptotically?
 
I think
first-similar to(as in similar triangles)
second-approximately equal to
third-asymptotically equal to
fourth-congruent to
 
I found these pages that lists all the symbols
http://www.dessci.com/en/support/mathtype/tech/encodings/mathpi3.htm
http://www.gomath.com/htdocs/ToGoSheet/Algebra/mathsymbols.html

1st: similar to
2nd: approximately equal
3rd: asymptotically equal
4th: congruent

I'm not quite sure what asymptotically equal refers to. I Googled it but I'm still confused.

If I have a formula:
P_{KOZ} \simeq P_1 \left( {\frac{{m_0 + m_1 }}{{m_2 }}} \right)\left( {\frac{{a_2 }}{{a_1 }}} \right)^3 \left( {1 - e_2^2 } \right)^{3/2}
And plugging in the numbers I find that the answer is asympototically equal to 330,000, but observations reveal a value of 220,000, is this too much of a descrepancy to be considered asymptotically equal?
 
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The only symbols there that have a (reasonably) unique meaning are the 2nd and 4th. The second means approximately, as in pi is approximately 3.14, and the 4th means isomorphic. The first and the third have many meanings, ranging from 'relates' (are in the same equivalence class) to 'is homotopic to' respectively.
 
I think I might know what "asymptotically equal" refers to in this situation.

After plotting a graph from the results of a celestial mechanical simulation, I get a sinusoidal graph. But the spacing between peaks is not equal. That formula above tries to compute the period of oscillation. But since each period is different, the formula can't possibly give a correct answer. But as more and more cycles are simulated, the averaged period approaches the value given by the formula. It's like an asymptote on a graph, approaching but never reaching a value. Maybe that's why he used the "asymptotically equal" symbol. Just my guess, any thoughts?

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Here's a graph illustrating my thought. Notice that the peak-to-peak distances are not the same from cycle to cycle. But perhaps if you had an infinite number of them their averaged distances would equal the formula's answer, hence "asympototically equal to"
http://www.orbitsimulator.com/gravity/images/acGraph01.GIF
 
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