"Symmetric Relations: Is "Is Brother of" Symmetric?

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The relation "is brother of" is definitively not symmetric, as demonstrated by the example where Paul is the brother of Anne, but Anne is not the brother of Paul. This distinction arises from the gender implications of the term "brother," which is male-specific. If the relation were restricted to a set of all males, it would be symmetric. Additionally, the discussion highlights a misunderstanding regarding domain and range in the context of the equation x² + y² = 9, clarifying that the domain consists of integers {-3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3} and the range includes specific real values rather than complex numbers.

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Homework Statement



Is this relation symmetric?

The relation in a set of people, "is brother of"


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The answer is not symmetric. They gave example says that
paul may be the bother of Anne but Anne is not the brother of paul
I thought that if A is brother of B then automatically B is brother of A isn't it?
I think the reason why i can not understand this is problem of English.
In my country brother indicates both older and younger, is it different in other country?
 
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It does seem like a linguistic problem. Paul is male Anne is female. Paul is the brother of Anne, Anne is the sister of Paul. It has nothing to do with age only with gender. I hope this clears things up.

A few more clarifications. If the set would have been the set of all males then the relation would have been symmetric.
 
Ohhhhh right why couldn't i think about that. Anne is name of girl indeed..
Thankyou!
 
an one more question
{(x,y) l x^2 + y^2 = 9, x belongs to Z}
I have to find the domain and range here and as x belongs to Z [interger]
I thought the domain is all the integers. and if x = 5 then y^2 = -16 which gives answer
y = 4i so range is all the complex numbers. But the answer is
domain {-3,-2,-1,0,1,2,3}
range {-3, -2(root2), -(root5), 0 , root5,2 root 2, 3
 
It is the equation of a circle with radius 3. You can be pretty sure that they want real values for y and not complex values. Secondly even if we were to allow complex values for y then the range would still not be all the complex numbers. Example: y=\frac{1}{2} \Rightarrow x=\frac{1}{2}\sqrt{35} \notin \mathbb{Z}
 
Right..ahh why couldn't i think about such things before register the replies..
Thankyou!
 

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