Taking extra classes after BS but before phD

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The discussion revolves around the considerations and implications of taking additional classes after obtaining a Bachelor of Science in physics and mathematics, prior to applying for graduate programs in physics. Participants explore the potential benefits of enrolling in extra courses, such as cosmology and particle physics, versus working in industry, as well as alternative pathways like pursuing a master's degree or another bachelor's degree.

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  • One participant considers whether taking extra classes would enhance their graduate school application, specifically mentioning courses like cosmology, particle physics, and group theory.
  • Another participant suggests that the process of taking classes between a BS and a PhD is typically referred to as obtaining a master's degree, which may provide tuition benefits if one becomes a research or teaching assistant.
  • Some participants express a preference for taking classes now rather than waiting to enroll in a master's program, aiming to improve their application in the short term.
  • There is a suggestion to explore options like Open University or Extended Education for taking additional courses, although concerns about registration priority and costs are raised.
  • A participant questions the relevance of taking cosmology classes for someone primarily interested in condensed matter physics, prompting a discussion about the utility of different subjects in shaping research questions.
  • Another participant inquires about the possibility of pursuing a second bachelor's degree at a different institution to take more advanced classes, and whether credits from the first degree could be transferred.

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Participants express differing views on the value of taking additional classes versus working in industry, and whether these classes would significantly impact graduate school admissions. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to enhance applications and the relevance of specific courses to the participant's research interests.

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Participants mention various educational pathways and their implications, including the potential costs and registration challenges associated with taking additional classes. There is also uncertainty about the transferability of credits between institutions and the timeline for graduate school applications.

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I got my BS in physics and math last year, and am considering applying to physics grad schools, looking to do theoretical physics in possibly condensed matter. I just took the core classes but not any physics electives classes, so would it help my grad application if I enrolled in some extra classes this upcoming winter quarter? I could take cosmology, particle physics, and/or group theory, among others. Or perhaps take a grad level course instead? I can take these courses at another university than where I did my undergrad at, since its closer, but would have to pay quite a bit of money. Since I wouldn't get the grades for these until March or so, wouldn't that be after grad admissions are made? Or would I be more productive if I just worked in industry to make some money before grad school.
 
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There's a name for this process of taking classes between a BS degree and PhD program. Its called a masters degree. And at most institutions if you're a RA or TA you don't have to pay tuition.
 
Topher925 said:
There's a name for this process of taking classes between a BS degree and PhD program. Its called a masters degree. And at most institutions if you're a RA or TA you don't have to pay tuition.

yeah I know, but I don't want to get a MS in physics as I would rather take classes now than wait until next year to take them as an MS student. I was just trying to think of something I could do in my time between now and grad school that could improve my application
 
What you may want is an arrangement called, OPEN UNIVERSITY, or EXTENDED EDUCATION. Regular university admitted students have priority in registering and enrolling, and the courses could be more expensive to attend for you. Check the school of interest and find if it has either a university extension or an open university implementation.
 
symbolipoint said:
What you may want is an arrangement called, OPEN UNIVERSITY, or EXTENDED EDUCATION. Regular university admitted students have priority in registering and enrolling, and the courses could be more expensive to attend for you. Check the school of interest and find if it has either a university extension or an open university implementation.

yes, that's exactly what I was thinking of. But I wanted to know if enrolling in classes through that would help my grad school admissions that I submit in a few months for the fall 2011 term. If it doesn't, then I may as well keep my money and self-study
 
with regards to PhD admissions, the biggest question:

do these classes lead you to ask better research questions/answer them?

if you're interested in condensed matter, how would classes in cosmology help you ask/answer better condensed matter question?
 
flemmyd said:
with regards to PhD admissions, the biggest question:

do these classes lead you to ask better research questions/answer them?

if you're interested in condensed matter, how would classes in cosmology help you ask/answer better condensed matter question?

for now, condensed matter would probably be my main interest. But I was also interested in astrophysics, so that's why I thought about taking the cosmology class. Solid-state physics isn't offered next quarter
 
i also want to know where can i have a extra year studying after graduation as the courses ivs taken are not so advanced. Can i apply another BS in another school and take all the advanced classes and finish that BS in 1 year by transferring the credits i earn in my old college?
 
eileen6a said:
i also want to know where can i have a extra year studying after graduation as the courses ivs taken are not so advanced. Can i apply another BS in another school and take all the advanced classes and finish that BS in 1 year by transferring the credits i earn in my old college?

that means i have a BS physics in college A in 2012 and earn another BS physics in college B in 2013?can i?
 

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