Talent Worthy of Wider Recognition

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The discussion revolves around the recognition of various musicians and bands, particularly focusing on guitar techniques, concert experiences, and the impact of age and fame on performance quality. Participants share insights on specific artists, their performances, and the evolution of musical styles, with references to both historical and contemporary figures in music.

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  • Some participants attribute the invention of the double lead guitar technique to George Harrison, while others contest this by citing earlier examples from Les Paul and Ennemond Gaultier.
  • There is a discussion about the perceived correlation between ticket prices and concert quality, with one participant noting a negative correlation based on personal experiences.
  • Participants mention various artists, such as Orianthi, D_Drive, and Larkin Poe, highlighting their contributions to modern rock and the unique sounds they produce.
  • Yuki from D_Drive is noted for covering songs like "Highly Strung," and there are references to other young musicians like Li-sa-X and Maya Neelakantan, showcasing their talents and achievements.
  • Concerns are raised about the impact of fame on performance quality, particularly in classical music, where younger, less-known musicians may deliver more passionate performances.
  • Some participants express admiration for specific performances and artists, while others question the consistency of quality across different concerts.
  • Matteo Mancuso is mentioned as an artist receiving significant recognition, with discussions around the dynamics of teamwork in bands.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a mix of agreement and disagreement regarding the origins of musical techniques and the relationship between concert quality and ticket prices. The discussion remains unresolved on several points, particularly concerning the recognition of various artists and the subjective nature of musical experiences.

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Some claims depend on personal experiences and may not reflect broader trends. The discussion includes references to specific performances and artists that may not be universally recognized or agreed upon.

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Readers interested in music history, guitar techniques, concert experiences, and the dynamics of performance quality in relation to fame may find this discussion engaging.

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Very nice semi-math rock. Though they should get with a more adventurous drummer. Travis Orbin maybe.
 
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My wish fulfilled!

 
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A workout for the chordal guitar player. He double tracked it but who cares about that.

 
  • #127
Guitarist Rie aka Suzaku with violinist Jill. How can someone have so much ability with such meager success? It happens. Maybe it's because usually she has been scanty with clothing. Nihon really doesn't like that, though maybe that's changing.



I don't know how Jill chose that name but the model could be the evil Mistress Jill from Cutie Honey.
 
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  • #128
For a progressive rock thing you can't beat KOIAI. To me the star is the keyboard player, though uncredited and on stage they play along with a recording. The recording engineering excels as well -- it just plain sounds great, a big advantage. Drummer Kanade Sato suddenly has developed a unique style that I can't get enough of. Based on Latin rhythms, though you would never know it from the unusually restrained drumming on this tune.

I doubt that this music was recorded live but you never know for sure.



The two guitarists play with the greatest skill. Their style is based on that of Glenn Tipton of Judas Priest. Judas Priest had really good guitar players but I was grossed out by the B&D image of Judas Priest so never listened to them. Thusly Glenn's excellence never got wide recognition until embraced by Japanese girls. (They surely were girls when they took up the guitar for the first time.)

They have international ambitions as revealed by singing in English, though often it is hard to tell. Here's some of that busy drumming I'm crazy about.



This singer left recently and was replaced. Too bad.
 
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I suspect that Nek! stands for neko[cat].
 
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Voice of Baceprot (V.O.B.)

(2026) This Indonesian Metal Band Is Changing Everything
Loud Society and Voice of Baceprot

Apr 14, 2026

In the conservative region of West Java, Indonesia, the all-female Muslim trio Voice of Baceprot has spent over a decade challenging expectations, pushing boundaries, and inspiring a new generation of musicians.

We joined the band during their intimate 12-year anniversary show in Garut, where they reflected on their journey from school outsiders to internationally touring artists who have played festivals like Glastonbury and Wacken Open Air. Now independent and more outspoken than ever, VOB talk about creative freedom, political expression, and why they refuse to compromise their message.

Their mentor, Abah Erza, who got Widi, Marsya and Sitti into music talks about the school system and we witness two young talented girls rock the stage.
Many thanks to Voice of Baceprot for letting uns take part in their anniversary and for being so open!
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- more V.O.B on PF

robphy said:
(2024) #1,551 from Cover songs... Sabotage (Beastie Boys).

Voice of Baceprot: https://voiceofbaceprot.com/
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voice_of_Baceprot
The word baceprot means "noisy" in Sundanese.
- BBC 100 Women 2024: search for Kurnia
Firda Marsya Kurnia, Indonesia
Heavy metal musician

Challenging gender and religious norms is something Firda Marsya Kurnia is comfortable with, as lead vocalist and guitarist in the all-female, hijab-wearing heavy metal band Voice of Baceprot.

Singing in English and Sundanese, one of the most widely spoken languages in Indonesia, the trio’s lyrics express their frustrations with patriarchy.

There has been pushback from more conservative Muslims, who did not respond well when the band ventured into heavy metal.

But the band have come a long way since they started 10 years ago at their village school in Garut, West Java. This year they performed at Glastonbury, the first Indonesian band in the music festival’s 54-year history.


VOB ❗ Live at Head In The Clouds, LA, USA (2023)
Sabotage &t=4m10s (solos and break &t=7m00s)


V.O.B "SABOTAGE || COVER" Live in Chicago (2023)


(VOB covered Killing in the Name in #673
and Enter Sandman in #547 .)


Great Big Story: Playing Heavy Metal in a Hijab (interview in 2018)
 
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  • #131
I love this concert by Hagane[steel].



They're inspired by Judas Priest. I thought Judas Priest had good music but couldn't tolerate their leather bar image. It's nice to have it all cleaned up by beautiful Japanese maidens with stratospheric skills. Who would have expected this to ever happen? Life can have nice surprises.

Note that their live sound is often bolstered by recordings. Lots of bands do this nowadays. I expect that syncing it up is done with AI. Beats hiring more mouths to feed.

Note also how short their set is. Tokyo is so overloaded with excellent music that they get only 15 minutes then it's on to the next act. That's why the stage is covered with equipment, one band stops and the next one starts right up.

It's truly hard to get tickets to these concerts. They sell out online in a few minutes. In order to buy tickets online you have to have a Japanese phone number, which foreigners are almost forbidden to have. (It's to abate scalping from Singapore and Hong Kong.) There is an obscure circuitous way to get one but you have to be in Japan to identify yourself in person. The tickets go on sale months in advance so you must be in Japan months in advance of the concert. Nevertheless through freakish circumstances I got a ticket for a show in this smallish venue, a very happy memory for me.

This concert is in Hibiya, close to the royal palace. Next to the palace in the samurai days was a little inlet used for growing hibiya, the seaweed used to make sushi. The inlet was filled in and used to build estates for the diamyo[dukes]. Nowadays there's a park there and the whole area is called Hibiya. The Godzilla statue is nearby.

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Godzilla has brought in so much foreign exchange that she has been declared a cultural ambassador. At night the towering 48-story metropolitan government building is projected upon by a short Godzilla movie.
 
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  • #132
About as energetic as rock ever gets.

 
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Give South Korea some too. They don't have the superskill but rock isn't about skill.



Got live (in Canada) if you want it.

 
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